Dustin Riechmann sits down with AI consultant and serial entrepreneur Dan Cumberland for a deep dive into how entrepreneurs can scale lean without losing their soul. From ministry roots to leading venture-backed SaaS teams, Dan shares how burnout forced him to rethink everything—and how AI became the bridge between sustainable growth and human-centered business. You’ll hear the behind-the-scenes story of his own pivots, why the “fractional CMO” label only scratches the surface, and the systems he's building to help founders stay lean and in control. This episode is a must-listen for entrepreneurs craving alignment, impact, and growth in the AI age.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Rethinking AI: Not a Tool, a Teammate
• 00:00:51 - Kicking Off: Inside the Seven Figure Leap Mindset
• 00:01:11 - Meet Dan Cumberland: Pastor-Turned-Tech Visionary
• 00:01:44 - From Burnout to Breakthrough: Dan’s Journey into AI
• 00:06:07 - Can AI Be Meaningful? Dan Gets Philosophical
• 00:10:26 - Meet Dustin AI: Coaching Gets an Upgrade
• 00:12:48 - How We Actually Built Dustin AI
• 00:17:28 - Launching Dustin AI: Messaging That Moves the Right People
• 00:22:57 - What Dan’s Doing Now (And Who He Helps)
• 00:27:53 - Lean + Aligned: Dan’s AI Playbook for Founders
• 00:34:28 - Connect With Dan + Make AI Work for You

Links and Resources

• Dan Cumberland's Website
• The Meaning Movement
• Dan on LinkedIn
• Dustin on LinkedIn
• 7 Figure Leap

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