Today I’m joined by Laura Sprinkle for a live coaching session on scaling her new affiliate-tracking SaaS, Rootabl, from $5,000 MRR to $25,000 MRR while maintaining the flexibility and freedom she values.

Laura has deep expertise in affiliate launches and is now shifting into the software world - facing new challenges like churn, onboarding friction, and deciding which features to build first.

We map out her next steps - from clarifying her ideal target customer and harnessing personal branding for trust, to using direct outreach as a repeatable engine for sustainable growth. You’ll learn why concierge migrations can be a secret weapon, how to choose the right community integrations, and why narrowing your audience often leads to better results.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:14 Why Creator-Led SaaS Is Harder (Yet More Rewarding)
02:39 How Laura Reached $5K MRR
07:36 Tackling Churn and Onboarding Friction
11:29 Using Personal Branding to Increase Conversions
14:55 The Direct Sales Flywheel Explained
19:48 Turning “Concierge Migrations” into a Competitive Advantage
30:57 Choosing Your Integrations Wisely
31:24 New Features vs. Doubling Down on Existing Ones
37:17 Reducing Churn
40:16 Narrowing Your Customer Profile for Faster Growth
45:45 Using Outreach to Drive Predictable Revenue
47:11 Introducing Tiered Pricing for Expansion
50:26 Tracking Progress & Staying Focused
51:52 The Power of Iteration in SaaS Growth
01:02:54 Closing Thoughts

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Follow Laura:
Website - https://laurasprinkle.com/
Rootabl (10% discount) - https://rootabl.com/special-offer/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/imlaurasprinkle/
Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/imlaurasprinkle/

Featured in this episode:
- Rootabl: https://rootabl.com
- Kit: https://kit.com
- Mighty Networks: https://www.mightynetworks.com

Today I'm joined by Haley from the Kit team for a Q&A where we answer your questions about building a creator business that lasts.

We explore everything from why major celebrities are suddenly launching newsletters to the practical choices creators face - like when to stay solo versus build a team, or whether to focus on high-ticket or low-ticket offers.

Plus, we share real examples from both sides of these decisions.
You'll learn how to make strategic choices that fit your goals, build sustainable systems that scale, and maintain balance while growing your business.

Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:02 - The Truth About Working with Matthew McConaughey
05:07 - Why Everyone is Launching a Newsletter (And Should You?)
12:13 - Which Celebrities Should Start a Newsletter?
15:46 - How Do You Balance Creativity With Execution?
19:42 - Should Entrepreneurs Build a Personal Brand?
30:59 - How Do Successful Creators Prioritize Self-Care?
37:27 - High-Ticket vs. Low-Ticket Offers: Which Makes More Money?
42:31 - How Far Can You Grow as a Solo Entrepreneur?
49:00 - Are You a Creator, a Coder, or a CEO?
53:34 - Should You Focus More on Product Creation or Marketing?
57:24 - How to Stay Productive Without Burning Out
01:01:12 - How Does Nathan Get More Done Than Most People?
01:05:00 - Closing Thoughts

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Featured in this episode:
Kit: https://kit.com
Brian Feroldi: https://www.brianferoldi.com/
Matthew McConaughey’s Newsletter: https://lyricsoflivin.com/
Hasan Minhaj: https://www.hasanminhaj.com/
Morgan Freeman: https://www.instagram.com/morganfreeman/
Lil Jon’s Newsletter: https://liljon.kit.com/newsletter/
Tom Brady’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tombrady/
Tom Brady’s Newsletter: https://tombrady.com/
Cristiano Ronaldo’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cristiano/
The Armchair Expert: https://armchairexpertpod.com/
Damian Lillard: https://www.instagram.com/damianlillard/
Jo Franco: https://www.instagram.com/jo_franco/
Caitlin Clark: https://www.instagram.com/caitlinclark22/
Travis Kelce: https://www.instagram.com/killatrav/
Jason Kelce: https://www.instagram.com/jason.kelce/
Kylie Kelce: https://www.instagram.com/kykelce/
Dermot Kennedy: https://www.dermotkennedy.com/
Codie Sanchez: https://codiesanchez.com/
Justin Welsh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinwelsh/
Danny Iny: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyiny/
Jed Eglington Episode: https://nathanbarry.com/60/
Sahil Bloom: https://www.sahilbloom.com/
James Clear: https://jamesclear.com/
Paperboy: https://www.paperboystudios.co/
Derek Sivers: https://sive.rs/

Today I'm joined by Isaac French for a coaching session on his next moves after turning a $2.3 million property investment into a $7 million exit, while building multiple six-figure digital revenue streams.
 
We map out his options - from launching a content agency and building more properties to scaling his YouTube presence - and explore how to choose between opportunities when you're optimizing for both impact and quality of life.
 
You'll learn our framework for evaluating opportunities, why enterprise value isn't just about tangible assets anymore, and how to grow strategically without sacrificing what matters most.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:29 How I Sold an Airbnb Business for Millions

03:26 Email Marketing Funnel That Makes $200K/Year

07:36 Should I Start an Agency, SaaS, Real Estate Business, or Creator Business?

11:29 Starting an Agency vs Building SaaS

14:55 Evaluating Future Paths

19:48 Making Money vs Quality of Life as an Entrepreneur

30:57 Why Isaac Keeps His Business Team Small

31:24 The Truth About Starting Agencies and SaaS Businesses

37:17 Exploring New Property Ideas

40:16 The Value of a Small Property

45:45 Growing on YouTube as a Business Owner

47:11 Growing an Email Newsletter

50:26 Balancing Cash Flow and Equity

51:52 The Value of Audience and Personal Brand

01:02:54 Closing Thoughts

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Featured in this episode:

Kit: https://kit.com 

Darrell Vesterfelt: https://darrellvesterfelt.com 

Sean Sweeney: https://www.seandsweeney.com 

New Story: https://www.newstoryhomes.org 

Brett Hagler: https://www.bretthagler.com 

Live Oak Lake: https://www.liveoaklake.com 

Paperboy: https://www.paperboy.co 

Nick Huber: https://www.instagram.com/sweatystartup 

Somewhere: https://www.somewhere.com 

Marshall Haas: https://www.marshallhaas.com 

Sahil Bloom: https://www.sahilbloom.com 

Shane Martin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-martin-micro 

Lil Jon's Newsletter: https://liljon.kit.com/newsletter 

Codie Sanchez: https://codiesanchez.com 

Dan Martell: https://www.danmartell.com 

Mark Manson: https://markmanson.net 

Highlights:

10:51 The Warren Buffett Secret to Success

21:06 The Two Sides of Wealth: Cash Flow vs. Enterprise Value

24:13 Every Creator Needs to Master Taxes

30:30 Small Teams, Big Visions

31:46 The Slow Climb to SaaS Success

32:12 Building Paperboy

52:34 Idea Banking

Today I'm joined by Laura Sprinkle, she's the founder & CEO of Rootabl and an expert in affiliate marketing and large-scale online course launches.

We dive into how high-profile online entrepreneurs execute multi-million-dollar launches, the role of affiliates in driving sales, and practical strategies for creators looking to scale their business using partnerships.

Laura shares insights from her own experience, explaining how strategic relationships, contest-driven engagement, and structured affiliate programs can outperform paid advertising. The episode is packed with actionable advice on launching, scaling, and maintaining energy throughout the process.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction

01:12 - What is a Launch Manager?

02:32 - The Launch Window Strategy

03:38 - Behind-the-Scenes of Big Launches

05:24 - Why You Should Use Affiliates

09:18 - Turning a Failing Launch Around

11:17 - Best Affiliate Prizes & Incentives

15:14 - Helping Affiliates Sell More

17:02 - How to Plan an Affiliate Launch

22:30 - Beginner vs. Advanced Affiliate Programs

24:13 - Commission Structures & Trends

27:04 - The Profitable Partnerships Flywheel Explained

29:02 - Why Appreciating Affiliates Matters

32:29 – How to Activate Your Affiliates

39:08 - The Relationship Rings Model

46:14 - How to Reach Out to Potential Affiliates

50:10 - Networking & Events for Affiliate Growth

53:30 – Closing thoughts

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Follow Laura:

Website - https://laurasprinkle.com 

Rootabl - https://rootabl.com/special-offer

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/imlaurasprinkle 

Linked-In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/imlaurasprinkle 

Featured in this episode:

Marie Forleo's B-School (Course)- https://www.marieforleo.com/bschool 

Rock Your Affiliate Program - https://laurasprinkle.com/lets-rock-together 

Amy Porterfield - https://www.amyporterfield.com 

Selena Soo - https://www.selenasoo.com 

Rootabl (10% discount) - https://rootabl.com 

Creator Flywheel's Course - https://creatorflywheels.com 

Kate Northrup - https://katenorthrup.com 

Chris Brogan - https://chrisbrogan.com 

Highlights
07:33 – Overcoming Fear When Launching with Affiliates

16:20 – Why Leading Indicators Matter

34:31 – Bigger Audiences Don’t Always Mean Better Affiliates

36:45 – The Difference Between Perceived Value and Monetary Value

48:20 – Why Personal Outreach is Important

50:17 – How In-Person Events Help Build Relationships

Today I'm joined by Darrell Vesterfelt to explore why personal brand might be the most overlooked asset for early-stage founders.

First, Darrell shows why traditional startups should borrow strategies from the creator world, sharing how he's helped companies drive sales and recruit talent through founder-led marketing. Then we dig into a step-by-step playbook for building your baseline presence - from getting your first podcast interview to crafting foundational content.

You'll learn how to develop a personal brand that supports real business goals, create content efficiently without letting it consume your time, and increase conversion rates across recruiting, sales and partnerships.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:33 Behind Mount Haley Holdings

02:29 The Stigma Around Personal Branding

03:14 The Power of Personal Branding: Practical Steps

05:47 5 Personal Branding Tips for Founders

09:05 Step 1: How to Get Interviewed on Podcasts

11:45 Step 2: Develop a Founding Story

12:24 Step 3: Setting Up Social Media Profiles

15:41 Step 4: Writing Foundational Essays

18:03 Step 5: Business Case Studies

20:38 How to Get High-Ticket Clients Through Personal Branding

25:37 Why Keep Investing in Personal Brand at $40M ARR

29:21 How to Attract Top Talent with Personal Branding

33:02 Using Personal Brand to Build Company Culture

38:40 Personal Branding Within Teams

41:59 How to Create Educational Content That Sells

53:17 Turning Personal Brand into Marketing ROI

57:30 Building Community Around Your Business

01:03:20 How to Systematize Content Creation

01:06:22 Closing Thoughts

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Website: https://nathanbarry.com 

Follow Darrell:

Website: https://darrellvesterfelt.com 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dvest 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrellvesterfelt 

X: https://twitter.com/dvest 

Featured in this episode:

Mount Haley Holdings: https://www.mounthaley.com 

Good People Digital: https://mygoodpeople.com 

Boomtown: https://boomtowngrowth.com 

HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com 

Mighty Networks: https://www.mightynetworks.com 

Charli (Kit Creative Director): https://www.charlimarie.com 

Deliverability Podcast: https://deliverability.transistor.fm 

Webflow: https://www.webflow.com 

Framer: https://www.framer.com 

Hampton: https://www.joinhampton.com 

Sam Parr: https://www.linkedin.com/in/parrsam 

Leadpages: https://www.leadpages.com 

Cast Magic: https://www.castmagic.io 

Jason Lemkin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmlemkin 

Highlights:

02:19 Personal Branding: The Silicon Valley Stigma

14:46 Social Media Audit Checklist for Founders

25:59 Why I'm Still Building My Personal Brand at $40M ARR

29:21 Using Personal Brand to Improve Hiring

34:41 How Kit Creates Internal Content

38:37 Team Personal Branding Strategy

57:24 Kit Building an Online Business Community

Today I'm joined by Gina Bianchini, founder of Mighty Networks, to discuss what her data shows makes online communities succeed or fail.

Gina shares her frameworks for creating engagement between members and reveals the one metric that predicts a community's success with 93% accuracy. We dive into specific strategies around transitions, monthly themes, and daily engagement that keep members active.

You'll learn how to build genuine connections between members, identify the right people to seed your community, and create lasting value that has members sticking around long-term.

Timestamps:

00:00 Building Your Own Community

01:20 Signs Your Community Will Fail

05:04 How to Make Money from Your Community

07:05 Turning Around a Dying Community

08:24 The Role of Network Effects

09:19 Creating Member Engagement

14:47 Creating Community Engagement with Monthly Themes

20:07 How to Use Polls to Drive Community Interaction

24:36 Facebook Groups vs Dedicated Community Platforms

32:23 What is People Magic and Why It Matters

36:35 Creators Defining Their Own Terms

38:44 Positioning Your Community: Force of Choice vs Comparison

40:59 Building Long-Term Community Success

45:13 Using Nominations to Grow a Paid Community

50:42 When to Revive vs Restart a Community

53:23 How Member Connections Drive Growth

01:06:41 Closing Thoughts

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Follow Gina:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginabianchini 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gbianchini 

X: https://twitter.com/ginab 

Featured in this episode:

Mighty Networks: https://www.mightynetworks.com 

Christopher Lochhead: https://lochhead.com 

Eddie Yoon: https://www.eddiewouldgrow.com 

Mastermind Talks: https://www.mmt.community 

Creator Flywheels: https://creatorflywheels.com 

Highlights:

06:19 The Problem of Churn in Communities

44:38 The 70/30 Rule for Community Growth

01:00:22 Mighty Networks + Kit Collaboration

In this episode, Justin Moore reveals how he built a $600,000 annual business from sponsorship coaching.

Justin walks me through his business - from the on-demand course and audit tool that bring in new clients, to his high-touch coaching program that transforms how creators approach brand deals. Then I help him map out a path to $2 million in revenue by leveraging his upcoming book and optimizing his funnel.

You'll learn about growing through referrals, using smart tools to attract ideal clients, and finding the balance between aggressive growth and keeping what works.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:13 Revenue Growth: From $88K to $600K+

05:33 Building an Effective Marketing Funnel

09:01 Newsletter Growth Strategy

18:30 Creating Tools That Convert

22:12 How to Prioritize Tasks as a Creator

23:51 Transitioning from Side Project to Real Business

28:29 Setting Work-Life Balance Goals as a Creator

29:41 Using a Book to Scale Your Business

31:17 Will Writing a Book Hurt Your Business?

33:11 How to Package and Position a Book

35:25 Why Word of Mouth Matters for Books

39:39 Optimizing Your Revenue Streams

43:33 Top of Funnel Marketing Strategies that Work

01:00:12 Closing Thoughts

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Website: https://nathanbarry.com 

Follow Justin:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creatorwizard 

Website: https://www.creatorwizard.com 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@creatorwizard 

X: https://twitter.com/justinmooretfam 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinnmoore 

Featured in this episode:

Sponsor Magnet (Book): https://www.sponsormagnet.com 

Morning Brew: https://www.morningbrew.com 

Spark Loop: https://www.sparkloop.app 

Creator Network: https://creatornetwork.kit.com 

Pat Flynn: https://www.patflynn.com 

Jay Clouse: https://creatorscience.com 

Atomic Habits (Book): https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits 

Dan Martell: https://www.danmartell.com 

Buy Back Your Time (Book): https://www.buybackyourtime.com 

Tiago Forte's Essay: https://fortelabs.com/blog/the-financial-reality-of-a-traditionally-published-book-a-complete-breakdown 

Bonnie Christine: https://www.bonniechristine.com 

Darrell Vesterfelt: https://darrellvesterfelt.com 

Brian Harris (Growth Tools): https://growthtools.com 

HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com 

Buffer: https://www.buffer.com 

Creator Flywheels Course: https://creatorflywheels.com 

Highlights:

16:31 How to Make Money Online

19:55 Why Tools Are Great Lead Magnets

23:11 Time Management Tips for Creators

25:49 Getting Past Startup Trauma as a Creator

33:10 The Strategy Behind Successful Book Launches

48:45 Choosing Between Multiple Products vs One Focus

Today I'm joined by Jed Eglington to explore an overlooked path to becoming a successful full-time creator.

Jed shares his journey from in-house creator to successful business owner, outlining how to develop video, storytelling and production skills that companies actually value. He breaks down what businesses look for when hiring creators and how to position yourself for these opportunities.

Learn how to master the essential skills, create a compelling portfolio, and transition from creator to founder by building products your audience wants.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:06 Misconceptions About the Creator Economy

02:03 Mapping Out Creator Career Paths

02:21 The Role of In-House Creators

06:57 Essential Skills You Need as a Creator

09:01 Learning Video Editing as a Beginner

11:20 Storytelling Tips for Content Creators

13:32 Being Confident On Camera

17:38 How to Find the Right Company to Work For

24:35 Analyzing Video Formats

25:21 How to Get Companies to Notice Your Work

28:20 Making It Easy to Say Yes

30:17 Guide to Going from Creator to Founder

31:51 Building an Audience While Working Full-Time

40:05 How to Grow Your email List

47:20 Closing Thoughts

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Follow Jed:

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@creatorjed 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creatorjed 

Website: https://www.creatorroom.com 

Featured in this episode:

Dan Go: https://www.instagram.com/danfounder 

Justin Welsh: https://www.justinwelsh.me 

Amy Porterfield: https://www.amyporterfield.com 

HiSmile: https://hismileteeth.com 

Kit: https://www.kit.com 

Gary Vee: https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com 

D Rock: https://www.instagram.com/drock 

Charli Prangley: https://charlimarie.com 

Tim Urban (Wait But Why): https://www.waitbutwhy.com 

Ugmonk (Jeff Sheldon): https://www.ugmonk.com 

Peter McKinnon: https://www.youtube.com/@petermckinnon 

Ali Abdaal: https://www.youtube.com/@aliabdaal 

Casey Neistat: https://www.youtube.com/@casey 

Karen X Cheng: https://www.instagram.com/karenxcheng 

Donald Miller (StoryBrand): https://www.storybrand.com 

Codie Sanchez: https://codiesanchez.com 

Nick Huber: https://www.instagram.com/sweatystartup 

Highlights:

04:49 The Rise of the In-House Creator

09:58 Learning More by Copying Others

11:27 The Blueprint for Book Titles

13:51 Why a Guiding Principle Matters

23:48 Documenting Video Performance

26:24 How to Get Your Work Seen by the Right Companies

32:29 How CEOs Should Approach Employees Building Their Own Audiences

38:37 Turning a Crowd into a True Audience

41:49 When Are You Sending Too Many Emails?

In this episode, Isaac French shares how he grew from 5,000 Instagram followers to selling his Texas micro resort for $7 million, just 18 months after opening.

Isaac reveals his strategy for leveraging online audiences to support hospitality projects - converting social media followers into guests, email subscribers into customers, and content into major media coverage. He details his journey from restoring a historic train car in Idaho to creating destination properties that attract visitors from 40 states.

Learn his methods for crafting viral stories, building valuable email lists, and why combining online influence with physical experiences creates exponential results.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:10 Building Family Businesses

10:58 Airbnb Account Suspension

12:20 Growing from 5K to 150K Followers in 15 Months

22:24 How to Combine Online Marketing with Physical Business

26:29 Using Design to Stand Out in Business

33:05 Business Lessons from Steve Jobs and Apple

40:50 How One Twitter Thread Got 20M Views

44:00 The Art of Writing Viral Content

48:14 Best Practices for Reposting Content

49:13 How to Convert Social Media Followers to Email Subscribers

51:31 Creating Successful Short Form Video Content

56:01 Why Transparency Builds Trust

01:00:17 Using Content Creation to Fund Business Growth

01:07:59 Closing Thoughts

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Website: https://nathanbarry.com 

Follow Isaac:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/isaacfrench_ 

Website: https://www.isaacjfrench.com 

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isaacjfrench 

Featured in this episode:

Live Oak Lake: https://liveoaklake.com 

Hans Lorei: https://www.instagram.com/hansloreidesign 

Sam Parr: https://twitter.com/theSamParr 

James Clear: https://jamesclear.com 

Al Doan: https://twitter.com/drbillnye 

Brent Underwood: https://twitter.com/underwoodbrent 

The Cliffs at Hocking Hills: https://thecliffs.house 

Highlights:

01:17 The Motel Patel Cartel

13:27 Creators on a Journey

29:46 Power of Good Taste

35:13 Lord of the Rings Quality Anecdote

46:10 How Nick Huber Engineers Viral Tweets

52:54 Getting a Deal Done with a Non-Monetary Value

01:00:16 Digital/Physical World Flywheel

In this episode, Haley Janicek from the Kit team joins me for our new Q&A format to explore building community, creating content, and growing your business in the creator economy.

First, we explore the power of in-person connections through our experiences with Kit Studios and Craft + Commerce, discussing how community accelerates growth. Then we tackle your questions about AI in content creation, balancing revenue streams, and transitioning to full-time creation.

You'll learn practical strategies for building your minimum viable brand, leveraging AI tools authentically, and creating sustainable growth - whether you're starting out or scaling up your creator business.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:33 Behind the Scenes at Kit with Haley Janicek

02:26 Building Kit Studios: From Idea to Reality in 27 Days

08:11 Kit Studios Expansion: New Location Coming in February

08:47 Why In-Person Creator Communities Matter

10:36 What Creators Can Learn from Taylor Swift's Success

13:19 How Events Transform Creator Businesses

18:40 Inside Craft and Commerce: The Creator Conference

19:47 The Strategic Selfie Method for Networking

23:09 Why In-Person Events Beat Online Networking

24:56 Craft & Commerce 2025: Event Details

27:35 Starting the Q&A Session

28:18 Using AI for Authentic Content Creation

32:28 Where the Creator Economy is Heading in 2025

33:48 How to Choose the Right Business Strategy

35:11 Preventing Creator Burnout While Growing

36:41 Growing a Creator Business with a Full-Time Job

39:07 Transitioning from Expert to Full-Time Creator

43:21 Balancing Profit with Positive Impact

45:58 The Journey to Building a $43M Company

48:49 Closing Thoughts

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