What does it truly take to launch a phenomenon? Most authors dream of hitting the bestseller list, but today's guest, Tim Grahl, flips that goal on its head. He's revealing the counterintuitive truth about enduring book success, explaining why chasing a fleeting "bestseller" title might actually hinder your book's long-term impact. If your vision for your book extends beyond a single week of sales to creating a lasting legacy, this episode is packed with essential strategies. Learn why "readers" trump "sales" and how to engineer word-of-mouth that propels your book for years, not just days. Prepare to redefine what a successful book launch truly means.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:00:51 Book launch definitions and timelines
00:03:34 Redefining "bestselling" beyond the lists
00:08:33 The one thing and Atomic Habits approaches
00:11:35 Tim's three categories for launching a book
00:14:05 Leveraging influencer networks as the biggest lever
00:19:07 Influencer promotion strategies
00:21:09 Getting fans to buy: creating scarcity
00:24:28 The most impactful book bonuses
00:28:55 Getting fans to share (the least impactful strategy)
00:31:11 Why direct advertising isn't profitable for books
00:34:40 The 10,000 reader rule for long-term success
00:42:41 Engineering word of mouth
00:46:28 Getting free copies into the hands of readers
00:50:55 Identifying and reaching relevant tribes
00:52:26 Tim's resources for authors

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Atomic Habits by James Clear: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits
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Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald: https://www.amazon.com/Great-Gatsby-F-Scott-Fitzgerald/dp/0743273567
Tribes by Seth Godin: https://www.sethgodin.com/books/tribes

Highlights:
01:38 – Why a book launch should last two years
05:34 – Selling a high volume doesn't always mean long-term success
13:11 – The 95/5 principle of book marketing
23:06 – The most effective and least effective bonuses
34:40 – The 10,000 reader rule explained
43:19 – Give away as many copies as possible
48:56 – Creative ways to get your book into readers' hands

What does it truly take to operate at the pinnacle of human performance? Justin Su'a, a leading expert in performance psychology, joins Nathan Barry to reveal the mindset shifts and practical tactics employed by professional athletes, elite military units, and top-tier companies like Google and Lululemon. From confronting challenging leaders to navigating the intense pressure of the World Series, Justin shares invaluable lessons on embracing obstacles, seeking critical feedback, and building relationships strong enough to withstand even the harshest truths. If you're striving for excellence, looking to lead more effectively, or simply want to learn how the best in the world maintain their edge, this episode is packed with actionable insights.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
02:18 Challenging a Military Leader's Perspective
05:14 Asking Questions Instead of Giving Answers
06:21 Difficult Feedback in Professional Sports
09:05 Addressing Lack of Self-Awareness
12:51 The "It's Not Sufficient" Principle
15:19 Tuckman's Law of Team Development
19:03 Navigating VUCA Environments
20:00 Building Truth-Bearing Relationships
24:37 Scoring Relationship Strength
26:01 The Pressure of Sustained Success
34:25 Seeking Critical Feedback from Compliments
37:25 Soliciting Feedback from Your Team
39:07 The Dangers of Untruthful Inner Circles
42:15 Positive Sum vs. Zero Sum Games
46:17 Mental Rumble Strips to Manage Pressure
52:03 Crafting Effective Communication for Teams
57:12 Leading by Example with Vulnerability
1:02:19 Reinventing as a High Performer
1:06:50 Justin's Journey into Content Creation

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What does it take to build a million-subscriber YouTube channel, launch a best-selling book, and then walk away from it all for over a year? Noah Kagan, founder of AppSumo, joins Nathan to candidly discuss his journey from full-throttle content creation to a deliberate pause. Noah shares the unexpected internal and external pressures that came with his meteoric rise on YouTube, the strategic decisions that led to viral success, and why, despite achieving his goals, he ultimately stepped back. This conversation offers a rare glimpse into the mindset of a creator who prioritized personal fulfillment over endless growth, and how that decision reshaped his approach to content, business, and life.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
02:26 The decision to go all-in on YouTube
05:15 Noah's internal motivations for content creation
07:38 Building the YouTube "dream team"
10:14 The early content strategy and challenges
13:17 The pivotal "Knocking on Doors" video
16:45 The cost of rapid growth and Noah's burnout
19:10 The successful content pillars uncovered
22:18 The meticulous planning behind viral videos
25:34 Seeking timeless wisdom: interviewing the wealthy
28:22 Noah's biggest regret with the channel
30:58 Finding repeatable content formats
33:55 Identifying your unique content edge
37:25 The appeal of raw, unpolished content
40:31 The impact of fatherhood on content creation
43:10 Noah's vision for future content creation
45:47 The value of a public presence for business
48:29 The challenge of building internal influencers
51:04 Brainstorming content ideas for Kit
54:20 The power of high-caliber speakers
57:38 Content that ties directly to your business
1:00:27 Noah's current content philosophy
1:02:40 On Twitter: counterintuitive long stories

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Highlights:
02:15 – Questioning the "Why" of Content Creation
08:29 – The Shift from Public Validation to Inner Contentment
12:29 – The Audience Cares About Entertainment, Not You
17:08 – The Challenge of Following a Viral Hit
23:25 – Repeating What Works: The Kinko's Founder Interview
36:00 – The Value of Raw, Unpolished Content
53:08 – Using Conferences for High-Value Content

What does it take to build a profitable, impactful business while empowering more than 100,000 women? Julia Taylor, founder of GeekPack, shares her incredible journey from the intelligence community to building a thriving company with a mission to reach a million women by 2030. In this episode, Julia unveils her "embedded partnerships framework" – a potent strategy that's catapulted 70% of her revenue this year alone by fostering deep, meaningful collaborations with major brands like Verizon and TikTok. Discover how strategic alignment, win-win-win scenarios, custom integrations, co-creation, and robust impact reporting are key to scaling your business and making a true difference.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
02:51 From Intelligence to Entrepreneurship
06:23 The Confidence Transfer of Digital Skills
09:12 What is GeekPack's Current Business & Mission?
12:07 Point 1: Partnership Alignment
15:19 Point 2: Win-Win-Win Framework
17:09 Point 3: Custom Integration & Ecosystem
21:04 Point 4: Co-creation and Delivery
24:06 Point 5: Measurement and Momentum
27:17 Scaling with In-Person Events
30:20 CEO KPI: Public Mission Statements
34:02 The Sales Process & Team Empowerment
36:06 Hiring for Personality & Mission Alignment
40:51 The B2B and B2C Flywheel
44:17 Overcoming Bottlenecks: Time and Team
48:29 Building a Talent Bench
52:16 Audience Growth Strategies
56:45 Your Role in Social Content Creation

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SparkLoop: https://www.sparkloop.app

Highlights:
02:00 – Unpacking the Intelligence Community Past
08:00 – The Power of Inspect Tools Confidence
13:11 – Verizon and Geographic/Demographic Alignment
22:00 – How Impact Reports Drive Momentum
32:40 – Nathan's "Four Times a Month" Realization
41:30 – Why Predictable Revenue Fuels Creativity
54:10 – SparkLoop's Impact on Engaged Subscribers

Chris Hutchins, host of the wildly popular All the Hacks podcast, joins us to crack the code on podcast growth. Most creators dream of building a brand, attracting millions of listeners, and monetizing their passion, but Chris has actually done it, transforming his podcast into a powerhouse through meticulous optimization. If you've ever wondered how successful podcasts truly scale beyond the initial buzz, or how to inject startup-level strategic thinking into your creative venture, this episode is a masterclass. Chris reveals the behind-the-scenes tactics that catapulted his show to millions of downloads, sharing the unconventional strategies that maximize reach and impact.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
07:08 The Underrated Power of Networking
11:09 Leveraging Your Inner Circle for Connections
15:08 Crafting Pitches That Stand Out
20:00 The Value of Deep Expertise
23:44 Podcast Growth: Beyond the Numbers
28:07 Gauging Podcast Potential with Overcast Ads
32:20 Strategic Guesting on Other Podcasts
37:57 The Art of Asking to Be a Host
42:04 Maximizing Value in Podcast Collaborations
46:19 The Untapped Potential of Post-Roll Ads
51:00 Subsidizing Growth for Maximum Scale
54:15 Reinvestment and Strategic Retreats
58:24 Optimizing for Leverage, Not Just Revenue
1:01:52 Gaming the Podcast Charts
1:08:14 Essential Personal Finance Hacks
1:10:00 The Ultimate Hotel Upgrade Hack
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Highlights:
02:22 Shifting from Entrepreneur to Creator Identity
08:31 The Power Move of Ending a Conversation
12:12 Networking by Adding Value to an Inner Circle
26:35 Podcast Downloads vs. YouTube Views: Engagement Matters
34:04 Treating Your Creator Business Like a Startup
45:15 The Strategy of Buying Post-Roll Ads
1:08:29 Why You Should Never Leave Cash in a Checking Account

What does it take to scale a business to a multi-million dollar enterprise and beyond, all while maintaining profitability and a thriving culture? Chandler Bolt, founder of selfpublishing.com sits down in his bustling office to reveal the crucial shifts and strategic insights that propelled his company from the initial million-dollar milestone to hitting the ambitious $10 million mark and charting a course for even greater heights.

From turning business into a game complete with scoreboards and "green days" to mastering product-market fit and the art of "reverse selling" in hiring, Chandler shares the unconventional wisdom he's gained on his journey. This episode is packed with candid advice for entrepreneurs at every stage, exploring the often-overlooked distinctions between revenue and profit, the true cost of growth, and the surprising benefits of in-person collaboration in an increasingly remote world.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
07:11 The three most important metrics & activities
14:26 Is the first million the hardest?
21:07 Profit over revenue for scaling
27:18 Three ways to grow a business
32:00 Reverse selling to attract top talent
37:29 Offboarding team members gracefully
43:24 The power of implementing strong processes
49:50 The need for scalable customer acquisition at $10M+
55:23 The shift to an in-person culture
01:00:30 Remote vs. in-person debate

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Steering a company from nascent idea to multi-million dollar revenue is rarely a smooth ride. Often, it's a journey fraught with uncertainty, tough decisions, and the internal battles no one sees. For Nathan, the guiding hand through much of this journey has been his coach, Dan Putt. As a co-founder of Reboot, Dan has spent years working with leaders and executives, helping them navigate growth without losing themselves in the process. In this episode, Dan shares not only his unique coaching philosophy - which emphasizes a deep, inside-out understanding of oneself, but also practical tools and frameworks that address common founder sticking points like imposter syndrome, the fear of conflict, and the allure of the "magic bullet" solution. Get ready to rethink your approach to leadership and personal development.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
02:23 Dan's coaching philosophy
04:36 The Greek God CEO and imposter syndrome
07:11 The "have to" versus "get to" reframe
10:00 What problems say about identity
12:56 Listening to understand: Beyond the words
15:46 Inside-out leadership development
18:31 The challenge of competitive responses
21:52 Journaling for self-discovery
25:21 Practical tips for consistent journaling
28:11 Getting clear on what you truly want
30:26 The "loyal soldier" concept
33:53 How personal traits drive ambition
38:39 The shift from "need" to "want"
41:43 Conflict as progress and care
45:34 Tools for navigating conflict
50:47 The "net" framework for communication
52:23 Avoiding problems vs. facing them
55:29 The temptation of the "magic bullet"
59:08 Feeling the fear without dwelling
1:01:21 The tantruming toddler metaphor for anxiety
1:03:00 Leading with curiosity, not fear

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The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron: https://juliacameronlive.com/books/the-artists-way
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The Obstacle Is the Way by Ryan Holiday: https://ryanholiday.com/books/the-obstacle-is-the-way
Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink: https://echelonfront.com/Extreme-Ownership

Highlights:
02:47 Understanding the spectrum of coaching approaches
08:24 The danger of linking self-worth to problems
13:44 The wisdom found at the emotional level
23:25 The clarifying power of daily journaling
34:05 How the "loyal soldier" shapes our drives
45:51 Why true care often requires conflict
53:49 Facing uncomfortable feelings builds resilience
1:01:05 Approaching anxiety like a tantruming child
1:03:54 Shifting from fear to wonder for better leadership

Start 2026 strong with a handpicked collection of the best advice from this year's top moments! This episode is a treasure trove of actionable insights designed to elevate your business and personal growth. We've curated the moments that resonated most, offering practical strategies for everything from scaling your business and building a thriving community to mastering content creation and leveraging social media. Get ready to learn from the best and apply these game-changing lessons to achieve your goals this year!

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:30 Dan Martell: The Buyback Loop for Capacity
01:56 Transferring Tasks with the Camcorder Method
04:05 Filling Your Calendar with High-Value Activities
06:00 Mindset and Beliefs for Growth
07:51 Chris Donnelly: The Cohort Model for Scaling
11:16 The Scarcity Principle in Product Launches
13:40 Jay Clouse: Building Small, Engaged Communities
16:16 The Gold Standard of Community Building
17:38 Pat Flynn: YouTube Shorts to a Million Subscribers
19:14 The Power of Quantity Over Quality
21:55 Nicole Burke: Instagram as a Storefront
24:05 Creating Entertaining Content that Drives Shares
26:49 Jefferson Fisher: Crafting Viral Reels Without a Script
29:52 Testing and Refining Your Reel Content
31:37 The Crucial First Three Seconds of a Reel
33:10 Avoiding Subjective Content Judgment

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Highlights:
00:25 – Dan Martell's Capacity Buyback Loop
04:25 – The Ladder of Success for Habits & Skills
08:01 – Chris Donnelly's Cohort-Based Course Model
13:44 – Building Small, Engaged Communities Effectively
17:42 – Pat Flynn's YouTube Shorts Million Milestone
21:55 – Nicole Burke on Instagram Storefront Strategy
31:37 – Jefferson Fisher's Tips for Viral Reel Hooks

Many entrepreneurs and marketers feel like they've missed the boat on short-form video. The common thought: "That worked a few years ago, but it's too saturated now." But what if that's a myth? Colin Landforce, founder of Cut30, argues that with a unique perspective and consistent effort, anyone can achieve massive results, regardless of follower count. He's seen students with under 1,000 followers generate tens of thousands in revenue, proving you don't need millions of views to make a significant business impact. Colin reveals his three-step framework for taking short-form video seriously, alongside the critical role of hooks, and how to simplify your strategy to win big.

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro: The biggest opportunity in media
01:14 Why short-form video is a generational opportunity
02:26 Breaking the myth of saturation
05:48 The power of small audiences
10:48 Why founders should create their own short-form content
12:50 The shift from side project to serious business
14:39 Break the seal - just start
17:08 How to make your first simple "one shot" video
20:25 Learn the edit - basic chops in CapCut
23:33 The importance of efficiency in short-form content
29:26 Do it again tomorrow - consistency is key
34:13 How to generate an endless supply of content ideas
36:03 The three keys to a compelling hook
37:41 The "everyone's been asking me" hook
40:28 The impact of visual hooks beyond motorcycle crashes
43:01 The power of props in visual hooks
48:16 Brainstorming short-form content from this podcast episode
50:45 Crafting a tight, efficient short-form video example
54:51 Why short-form is Colin's primary driver for any business

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Website: https://landforce.com

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Highlights:
02:15 The myth of saturation in short-form video
06:02 Small audience, huge business impact
14:08 Short-form video: the biggest opportunity in media
24:41 The accordion method for content efficiency
32:36 Track inputs, not outputs, for personal growth
52:12 Words to make your hook more efficient
56:45 Localized algorithms for niche businesses

The secret to building a content machine that reaches millions, all without spending a dime on ads? According to Ryan Holiday, it starts with making content people actually want to consume. In this live interview from Austin, Texas, Ryan pulls back the curtain on how Daily Stoic went from an obscure philosophy discussed only in academia to a global phenomenon. From cultivating an audience one platform at a time to transforming a single piece of content into a multi-platform strategy, discover the counterintuitive lessons from a master of timeless ideas and modern media. This isn't just about stoicism; it's a masterclass in building a resilient, impactful career designed to stand the test of time.

Timestamps:
00:00 Building a timeless content machine
02:17 Why ditch every ad and pivot to content?
06:07 The power of algorithms and meeting your audience where they are
08:27 Creating content you genuinely want to make
10:49 The Marathon video and turning experiences into content
13:26 Crafting a content flywheel that actually works
16:46 How a team translates one piece of content across mediums
20:09 What is a "pseudo event" and why do you need one?
24:21 From ghost town to content goldmine
28:47 Expanding your "set" beyond the studio
32:50 The value of "certification" in content creation
34:54 Lessons from Ghost Town Living's organic growth
39:46 How content creation impacts your life and thinking
42:36 Embracing different mediums, no matter your personal preference
45:11 Writing as a lagging indicator of deep work and research
47:53 Why AI can't replace the human touch in deep work
51:38 The process behind "Conspiracy": a narrative nonfiction deep dive
55:08 Parenting for wisdom: cultivating curiosity and deep dives
1:01:11 Navigating demand when starting out
1:05:06 Balancing art and commerce for long-term impact
1:08:52 The freedom of a profitable business
1:11:58 The ongoing challenge of discipline

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The Painted Porch: https://paintedporch.com

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Daily Dad: https://dailydad.com
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Ghost Town Living: https://www.youtube.com/@GhostTownLiving
Kit Studios: https://kit.com/studios

Highlights:
02:04 - From ads to in-house content creation
07:03 - People finding Ryan through the "algorithm" for free
12:25 - How one experience creates multiple content assets
20:51 - How a tuna recipe went viral for Matthew McConaughey
31:00 - The art of "certification" and making real life content come alive
46:57 - Why physical note cards are crucial for deep work
1:07:56 - Profit as permission to create more art