The AI arms race is getting ugly. With top talent bouncing between Thinking Machines and OpenAI, the guys debate a critical question for every leader: Is loyalty dead, or has Silicon Valley just stopped pretending?

Sam, Asad, and AJ discuss the ethics and dangers of the "secure the bag" mindset and what it means for building enduring companies. They also pivot to the tactical side of leadership, breaking down why most managers wait too long to fire and the hard truth that "what you allow, you encourage."

Key topics:

• The Thinking Machines exodus: Performance issues or corporate sabotage?

• Do ethics actually matter when the prize is AGI?

• The one management mantra every GTM leader needs for a high performing team

• Quitting the content hamster wheel: The hosts' priorities for the next chapter.

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Chapters:

00:00 Intro: Top Line, Pavilion Gold, and Today's Agenda

02:28 The Thinking Machines Exodus and OpenAI's Hiring Spree

08:08 Capital Incentives: Why Tech Talent Has Become Mercenary

14:03 The Core Debate: Do Values Matter in Modern Tech?

18:41 The "Get the Bag" Mentality vs. Building Forever Companies

23:00 The Risks of Accelerating into a Future Without Ethics

31:28 Impact on GTM: Shorter Tenures and Transactional Hiring

34:25 Why Swiftly Correcting Underperformance is an Act of Loyalty

45:00 Why Organizational Values Are Useless Without Defined Behaviors

01:00:38 Final Question: What Are You Under-Prioritizing for 2026?