As a writer, producer, and director, Alan Yang has worked on hit shows including Parks and Rec, The Good Place, Little America, Forever, and Master of None. While the end results have led to an Emmy win and heaps of critical accolades, getting there is always a process that leaves him wondering, “should I just quit this?” But pushing himself to that point is exactly where his most creative ideas come from—and you should be doing the same. In this episode, Yang explains the importance of surprising yourself, how getting rejected by Jay Leno was a necessary wakeup call, and how the opening scene of his new Netflix movie Tigertail became a behind-the-scenes movie in itself—and an invaluable lesson in leadership.