Alexei Zamyatin, the cofounder of Build on Bitcoin (BOB), joins the show to talk about the state of the art in Bitcoin Rollups. In this episode:

• Can Bitcoin achieve parity with Ethereum rollups?
• How BitVM and BitVMv2 changed the game for Bitcoin rollups
• When will Bitcoin rollups be considered "Stage 1"
• Ethereum's existential crisis
• Bitcoin fees in a rollup world
• The risk of L2s cannibalizing Bitcoin
• Will Bitcoin DeFi look different from Ethereum DeFi?
• Why Bitcoin deserves Rollups
• What soft forks is Alexei looking forward to?
• Does institutionalization ossify Bitcoin?
• BOB's progress and roadmap for 2025

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