In this episode of "Getting There," host Brogan sits down with Ali Dawah, a prominent and polarising figure in the UK Muslim community. They explore Ali's personal journey into Islam, the core meaning of his faith, and the lessons he hopes to share with his children. The conversation delves into topics such as integration within British society and the challenges and opportunities Muslims face in the UK today. Whether you align with Ali’s views or not, this episode offers a unique insight into the beliefs and motivations of one of Islam's most recognisable voices in the West.