Altered States Of Conversation

A personal, raw, and flowing conversation with a master of dialogue, Guy Sengstock. This has also been recorded and released on Guy's YouTube channel.

This conversation touches the nature of creativity, philosophy, and art, through the lens of personal struggle in the twilight zone of this meta-crisis.

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It has never been more important to be part of authentic conversations. To make sense of what to care about, together. Voicecraft is extending invitations to participate in meaningful group dialogues with artful practitioners of philosophical transformation.

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Support this project, learn more about Guy and find his YouTube channel @ https://voiceclub.com/the-struggle-and-joy-of-creativity-w-guy-sengstock-and-tim-adalin/

What does it mean to be authentic? How can we awaken into deeper understanding, together? Join John Vervaeke and Nora Bateson as they exchange ideas for the first time, in dialogue with Tim Adalin.

The time to remember, create, and realise profound ways to learn together.. is now.

Read the conversation waypoints, participate, watch the video recording, and follow the breadcrumbs @ https://wp.me/p2UC3z-vr

It has never been more important to be part of authentic conversations. To make sense of what to care about, together. Voicecraft is extending invitations to participate in meaningful group dialogues with artful practitioners of philosophical transformation.

Find participation links and other forums for interacting using the link above.

How can we make relationships that build life? This conversation is a journey toward asking that question.

"The compost knows more about how to be in a world of vitalising relationships than I do. Because I have been encultured into a lot of processes that have blinded me. And that have been served by exploitation that was beyond where I could see conveniently. And so I have this idea of essentialness that is connected to brokenness." - Nora Bateson

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Connect with Nora:

Learn more about Nora Bateson, the International Bateson Institute, and discover Warm Data Labs:

https://batesoninstitute.org/

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Guy Sengstock is the creator of Circling, a "yoga of deep transformational conversations". Here he joins Tim Adalin to journey into the Being mode of philosophy.

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Learn more about Guy and Circling @ https://www.circlinginstitute.com/

Email Guy @ guysengstock(at)gmail.com

Find Guy's YouTube channel for many profound philosophical dialogues here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuhoymQ9glku30sG4qgW-iQ

This rabbit hole is online and locally based in Melbourne, Australia. Live events continue in 2020.

A philosophical dialogue with groundbreaking cognitive scientist John Vervaeke, exploring the art of communication, transformation, and how we might realise a more meaningful connection to ourselves, each other, and the world.

Conversation waypoints:

1. The role of dialogue as a response to the meaning crisis

2. Dialogue as a meta-psychotechnology — that which enables the curation and coordination of psychotechnologies (ways that we make sense of the world and cultivate wisdom)

3. Dialectic as the machinery to enter into distributed cognition and collective intelligence

4. "Just like individual intelligence needs to be exapted up into rationality and then that exapted up into wisdom, we need to take collective intelligence and ratchet that up into collective rationality and collective wisdom. [...] That's what I think we need in order to get to the meta-psychotechnology." JV

- up to roughly 17mins

5. Theory and theoria, the musicality of dialogue, and meta-reflection on present dialogue

6. Accessing underlying functionality through phenomenology.

7. The logos in dia-logos - gathering together (logos) so that things belong together

8. Vulnerability and exposure - vulnerability as allowing things to penetrate into you.

9. Encouraging each other and encaring each other. So the vulnerability stays as a sensitivity rather than a hardening of defence because we're overexposed.

10. We have to bring the depths of ontology into dia-logos. 'Your deepest patterns of intelligibility, your deepest patterns of coping and sensemaking are always bound up with your deepest patterns of caring and concern and identification. So if we want this to have existential depth then we have to touch upon the ontological depths as well.'

11. Tipping towards aporia but not to horrify. We want to commit to the not knowing so that it becomes wonder and awe. This is also part of the dia-logos.

12. On circling plus philea sophia. 32 mins

13. From theoria back into theory 36 mins

14. Relevance realisation and loving transformation

15. Love, vulnerability, interesse (interesting - to be within)

16. Sacredness and the sacred

17. Making sacred and perfection

18. Teleology

19. Value and limitations of narrative 57 mins

20. Transnarrative - buddhism taoism stocicism

21. Do we have to leave narrative behind?

22. Connection between the completion of narrative and perfection and the sacred

23. Atemporality, Plato, Bergson, Beauty

24. Whitehead, emanation and emergence

25. Dialectic as the ontological structure of reality

26. Modes of orientation

27. The urgency of our collective moment

28. Meta-stability - a state of criticality so that positive development is possible for us while also setting up a whole bunch of constraints and systems so we don't over commit. Serious play allows us to taste and touch the criticality without the danger of catastrophic error.

29. Meta-stability and serious play

30. Ritual as a place of serious play

31. The joy and trauma of masculinity and femininity

32. Yin and yang

33. Adversarial to opponent processing

34. The need for healing

35. The importance of self-correction

John Vervaeke PhD is an award-winning lecturer at the University of Toronto in the departments of psychology, cognitive science and Buddhist psychology. He has published articles on relevance realization, general intelligence, mindfulness, metaphor, and wisdom. His abiding passion is to address the meaning crisis that besets western culture.

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John's remarkable and deeply educational YouTube series 'Awakening From The Meaning Crisis' can be found here. [https://www.youtu.be/54l8_ewcOlY](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpqD...)

Turn down the volume; listen for what's listening; there you'll find your voice. In the bubbling quiet.

Nora Bateson is an award-winning filmmaker, writer and educator, as well as President of the International Bateson Institute, based in Sweden. Her work asks the question, “How we can improve our perception of the complexity we live within, so we may improve our interaction with the world?” An international lecturer, researcher and writer, Nora wrote, directed and produced the award-winning documentary, An Ecology of Mind, a portrait of her father, Gregory Bateson. Her work brings the fields of biology, cognition, art, anthropology, psychology, and information technology together into a study of the patterns in ecology of living systems. Her book, Small Arcs of Larger Circles, is a revolutionary personal approach to the study of systems and complexity.

The International Bateson Institute - https://batesoninstitute.org/

Nora’s book, Small Arcs of Larger Circles - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32828546-small-arcs-of-larger-circles

Nora’s movie, An Ecology of Mind - http://www.anecologyofmind.com/index.html

How can we connect to ourselves, each other, and reality?

This Voiceclub dialogue explores the notions of disconnection, connection, human potential, and the mystery of transformation, from a lens of therapeutic growth, human development, and philosophy.

This dialogue was part of a Voiceclub event titled 'Disconnection In The Age Of Connection', held in the basement of the cocktail lounge Caz Reitop's Dirty Secrets in Melbourne, Australia.

Later in the evening, the audience participated in a group sensemaking practice, as part of an ongoing experiment in collective intelligence and community building.

Events take place regularly. We welcome you to follow the breadcrumbs.

Learn more, watch the event to get a feel for the venue here: https://wp.me/p2UC3z-tt

Watch the event to get a feel for the venue here: https://youtu.be/ZpOGmVXsFec

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Joining Tim for this dialogue is Cameron Duffy

Cam works as a dual diagnosis counsellor of individuals and families. He has an interest in human development, the art of shadow integration and therapeutic growth. He also has a passion for the philosophy and science of holistic health, functional optimization and peak experiences that enable the realization of our creative potential.

Tim is a philosopher interested in meaning, wisdom, and the art of individual and cultural transformation. He is the founder, producer, and present host of www.voiceclub.com, a culture-making project.

Lila is a Sanskrit word, translated as something like divine play. There's a dance like nature to the flow of meaning in the spiral of dialogue.

Pairings like intellect and intuition, the analytic and the mystical, mind and body, propositional and participatory, serious play; these spark to mind when I reflect on the style of dialogue Sam and I enjoy. This one, recorded in June earlier this year.

Sam is the founder of LiveLearnEvolve.com, a digital portal for wisdom, curiosity, and transformation. He's a designer, yoga teacher, psychonaut, and student of Zen, Alchemy, and Esoteric wisdom.

For your evolving map of meaning, I hope you find insight here.

Much love.

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A soulful and exploratory dialogue about the philosophical undercurrents and participatory necessities of Self and civilisation in our modern world of change, with Daniel Thorson of Emerge and Tim Adalin.

Read more / watch @ https://www.voiceclub.com/soul-surfing-emergence-with-daniel-thorson-of-emerge

For a prescient articulation of key generator functions underpinning the transformations of our world, listen to the Emerge podcast episode with Daniel Schmachtenberger here:

https://anchor.fm/emerge/episodes/Daniel-Schmachtenberger---Utopia-or-Bust-Designing-a-Non-Self-Terminating-Civilization-e4rdf8

Learn more about the Monastic Academy Daniel practices at here: https://www.monasticacademy.com/

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For a growing number of futurists, culture analysts and seekers, Jordan Hall has become a key node of signal in a world of increasing noise.

Co-founder of Neurohacker Collective; futurist, sorcerer / philosopher, angel investor, tech-entrepreneur: these are just some of the hats you'll find on his various bios.

Hats are interesting, but they are hats.

It is the manner Jordan shows up to dialogue, in combination with the relevance of his thought, that is of key interest to many.

To watch this conversation go to https://voiceclub.com/in-the-wake-of-mystery-with-jordan-hall/

I hope that for many who track the ongoing development of the cluster of memes and names associated with Game B and the integrous transformation of Self and society, that this offers a unique and interesting window into some speculative metaphysics characteristic of the transformation in which we participate.

No answers here, certainly not from me. Hopefully some relevant questions in transformation though.

For those unfamiliar with Jordan Hall and his thinking I recommend listening to his appearance on the Jim Rutt show in particular, and also the trialogue on Rebel Wisdom where he's joined by Daniel Schmachtenberger and Jamie Wheal.

Conversation points:

- Why do this?

- Meaningful thinking

- The gravity of the change upon us

- Teleology

- Coherence, continuity, wholeness

- "Love is that which enables choice" - Forrest Landry

- On power and love

- The sacredness of choice

- Meta-psychotechnology

- Towards new stories

- Esoteric metaphysics of relationship and change

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