Marko Papic, Chief Strategist at BCA Research, joins Monetary Matters to argue that while tariffs may be the catalyst that shifts global appetites for US assets, it will be the necessary shift to fiscal hawkishness that will drive the end of “American Exceptionalism” and outperformance of US markets. Papic also discusses his views on as shift towards a multipolar world and why he views the dual polar world with US and China as competing global hegemons as the least likely outcome when compared with a multipolar reality or the revitalization of the American Empire.

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Timestamps:

01:00 Why TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out) is Wrong

08:29 Recession Risks vs Stock Market Risks

12:21 Comparing Soft & Hard Data

15:12 Timeline for Trade Policy Certainty

20:53 Tariffs as a Catalyst for Domestic Economic Improvements Globally

26:47 The US Fiscal Facade

28:28 China Outlook

30:14 The Big Beautiful Bill & US Fiscal Deficit

41:02 DOGE’s Political Signal Value

48:09 US Defense Spending

51:13 Russia & Ukraine War

56:07 Foreign Policy in a Multipolar World

01:03:01 Middle East Stability