In 2014, a Russian piece of malware targeting Ukraine spread across the world and nearly wiped out the databases of container shipping giant Maersk, FedEx, Merck, and many hospitals in the US. Senior writer at WIRED and author Andy Greenberg talks to Ed D’Agostino about the realities of cyberwarfare. They also discuss cryptocurrencies and their role in cybercrime—including the riveting story of the dark-web kingpin who was taken down thanks to crypto’s formerly unknown traceability. Get Andy’s page-turners, Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin’s Most Dangerous Hackers, and Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency on Amazon. Don’t miss this episode of Global Macro Update—listen now!