In preparing for the interview coming up this month with neurotheologian, Dr. Jim Wilder, Dan and Stephanie walk through some foundational information that is necessary to grasp the material to be discussed with Dr. Wilder fully.

In our discussion with Dr. Wilder, we will be discussing his new book, Escaping Enemy Mode. Today's podcast discusses two of his other books and what Dan and Stephanie are gleaning from them for ND Christian Couples. The books mentioned today are Rare Leadership & The Other Half of Church. What is necessary for interpersonal and intrapersonal growth? According to Wilder, it is joy, hesed, group identity, and healthy correction. What does all this mean for NDCCs? Join us for the discussion.