Ashlee Gadd is the founder of Coffee + Crumbs, a website, podcast, and newsletter devoted to encouraging mothers through storytelling. Her new book is Create Anyway: The Joy of Pursuing Creativity in the Margins of Motherhood. In this episode, Ashlee and Jonathan Rogers talk about the ways that creativity and motherhood, instead of being opposing forces, can actually complement one another. They talk about the need for mothers to know that they have permission to do creative work. And they talk about the creativity of children.

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