Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning)

Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning)

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Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning) episodes

  • Exceptions Prove the Rule | Dylan Wiliam | Cumulative Effect

    In Don’t @ Me (3:56), Tom opens by explaining why the exceptions prove the rule rather than discredit it. Then (10:57) Tom is joined by Dylan Wiliam for part 1 (of 2) of a conversation about classroom assessment. Finally, in Assessment Corner (50:12), Tom provides a year-end reminder that grades should reflect the cumulative effect of instruction, not the points they've accumulated over time.

     

    • Dylan on Twitter
  • Dylan on LinkedIn
  • www.dylanwiliam.org
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    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).
    • Grading from the Inside Out
    • Jonesboro, AR (Sep. 25-26)
    • Grading from the Inside Out
    • Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
    • Standards-Based Learning in Action
    • Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
    • Grading from the Inside Out
    • St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)

     

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Redefining Student Accountability" (NEW)

     

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

    • Podcast on Twitter
  • Tom on Twitter
  • Podcast on Instagram
  • Podcast on TikTok
  • Podcast on Facebook
  • www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    1 hr
  • Can vs Should | Shaunak Roy | Redefining Student Accountability (2)

    In Don’t @ Me (1:45), Tom opens by contrasting the difference between what we can do and what we should do in education, especially with ChatGPT. Then (8:43) Tom is joined by Shaunak Roy, founder of Yellowdig, a  community-driven active and experiential learning platform. Finally, in Assessment Corner (45:24), in part 2 of 2, Tom shares more details about his latest book, "Redefining Student Accountability: A Proactive Approach to Teaching Behavior Outside the Gradebook."

     

    • Shaunak on Twitter
  • Shaunak on LinkedIn
  • www.yellowdig.co
  •  

     

    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).

     

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Redefining Student Accountability" (April 2023)

     

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

    • Podcast on Twitter
  • Tom on Twitter
  • Podcast on Instagram
  • Podcast on TikTok
  • Podcast on Facebook
  • www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    53 min
  • Less is More | Eric Sheninger | Redefining Student Accountability

    In Don’t @ Me (2:11), Tom opens by reminding listeners that when it comes to making an argument in favour of something, or when you are trying to convince others to change to a more favourable practice, less is more! Then (9:47) Tom is joined by author Eric Sheninger to discuss his 2021 book, "Disruptive Thinking: Preparing Learners for Their Future." Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:11), Tom, in part 1 of 2, shares details about his latest book, "Redefining Student Accountability: A Proactive Approach to Teaching Behavior Outside the Gradebook."

     

    • Eric on Twitter
  • Eric on Instagram
  • Eric on Facebook
  • Eric on LinkedIn
  • Eric's Blog
  • www.ericsheninger.com
  •  

     

    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • SBLA 2-Day Training
    • Idaho Falls, ID (April 13-14)
    • Assessment & Grading Conference
    • Atlanta, GA (April 24-26) 
    • GFIO 2-Day
    • Salt Lake City, UT (April 26-27)
    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).

     

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Redefining Student Accountability" (April 2023)

     

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

    • Podcast on Twitter
  • Tom on Twitter
  • Podcast on Instagram
  • Podcast on TikTok
  • Podcast on Facebook
  • www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    58 min
  • Thank you! | Ron Ritchhart | Idea Cults in Assessment

    In Don’t @ Me (2:19), Tom celebrates episode 100 with a thank you to listeners. Then (7:50) Tom is joined by researcher and author Dr. Ron Ritchhart to discuss how we develop cultures of thinking in our classrooms. Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:06), Tom cautions listeners against idea cults that can emerge in discussions about assessment and grading that lack nuance and context.

     

    • Ron on Twitter
  • Ron on Facebook
  • www.ronritchhart.com
  •  

     

    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • SBLA 2-Day Training
    • Idaho Falls, ID (April 13-14)
    • Assessment & Grading Conference
    • Atlanta, GA (April 24-26) 
    • GFIO 2-Day
    • Salt Lake City, UT (April 26-27)
    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).

     

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Redefining Student Accountability" (April 2023)

     

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

    • Podcast on Twitter
  • Tom on Twitter
  • Podcast on Instagram
  • Podcast on TikTok
  • Podcast on Facebook
  • Website: www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    1 hr 8 min
  • ChatGPT in Education | Jessica Vance | ChatGPT & Assessment

    In Don’t @ Me (2:17), Tom discusses the pros & cons of ChatGPT in K-12 education. Then (8:23) Tom is joined by author Jessica Vance to discuss her book, "Leading with a Lens of Inquiry." Finally, in Assessment Corner (43:16), Tom highlights ten ways ChatGPT can be used for classroom assessment.

     

    • Jessica on Twitter
  • Jessica on Instagram
  • www.leadingwithinquiry.com
  •  

     

    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • GFIO Virtual 2-Day
    • April 4 & 11
    • SBLA 2-Day Training
    • Idaho Falls, ID (April 13-14)
    • Assessment & Grading Conference
    • Atlanta, GA (April 24-26) 
    • GFIO 2-Day
    • Salt Lake City, UT (April 26-27)
    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).

     

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Redefining Student Accountability" (April 2023)

     

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

    • Podcast on Twitter
  • Tom on Twitter
  • Podcast on Instagram
  • Podcast on TikTok
  • Podcast on Facebook
  • Website: www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    52 min
  • Last Thing You Said | Shelley Moore | Portfolios

    In Don’t @ Me (2:37), Tom asked listeners to consider the question, "what's the last thing you said to yourself about yourself?" Then (10:11) Tom is joined by author and speaker, Shelley Moore to discuss the important aspects of equity, inclusion, & UDL. Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:47), Tom highlights why knowing its purpose is the most important part of implementing a portfolio system.

     

    • Shelley on Twitter
  • Shelley on Instagram
  • Shelley on Facebook
  • Shelley on YouTube
  • Shelley's Podcast
  • www.fivemooreminutes.com
  •  

     

    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • Summit on PLC at Work 
    • Phoenix, AZ (Feb. 28 – 2)
    • GFIO Virtual 2-Day
    • April 4 & 11
    • SBLA 2-Day Training
    • Idaho Falls, ID (April 13-14)
    • Assessment & Grading Conference
    • Atlanta, GA (April 24-26) 
    • GFIO 2-Day
    • Salt Lake City, UT (April 26-27)
    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).

     

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Redefining Student Accountability" (April 2023)

     

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

    • Podcast on Twitter
  • Tom on Twitter
  • Podcast on Instagram
  • Podcast on TikTok
  • Podcast on Facebook
  • Website: www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    1 hr 8 min
  • Impact Update | Rob Dunlop | Overrater Explains

    In Don’t @ Me (2:31), Tom provides an "impact" update, an update on how his #OneWord challenge is going so far. Then (9:20) Tom is joined by author Rob Dunlop to discuss his latest book, "Strive for Happiness in Education." Finally, in Assessment Corner (56:38), Tom provides a mantra to follow when there is a discrepancy between the student's self-assessment and the teacher's assessment.

     

    • Rob on Twitter
  • Rob on Instagram
  • Rob on Facebook
  • Rob on LinkedIn
  • www.motivatedu.com
  •  

    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • Summit on PLC at Work 
    • Phoenix, AZ (Feb. 28 – 2)
    • GFIO Virtual 2-Day
    • April 4 & 11
    • SBLA 2-Day Training
    • Idaho Falls, ID (April 13-14)
    • Assessment & Grading Conference
    • Atlanta, GA (April 24-26) 
    • GFIO 2-Day
    • Salt Lake City, UT (April 26-27)
    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Redefining Student Accountability" (April 2023)

     

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

  • Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
  • Twitter: @TomSchimmer
  • Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
  • TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
  • Facebook: Schimmer Education
  • Website: www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    1 hr 4 min
  • Cost of NOT Changing | Tim Stephenson | Next Generation Assessment

    In Don’t @ Me (2:56), Tom discusses why, when considering any change, it's important to consider the cost of NOT changing as well. Then (8:53) Tom is joined by science teacher and podcast host Tim Stephenson to discuss the essential characteristics of teaching science in the 21st century. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:11), Tom highlights the key aspects of Next Generation Assessments.

     

    • Twitter: @astrostephenson
  • Instagram: @astrostephenson
  • Podcast: Science 360
  •  

    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • Summit on PLC at Work 
    • Phoenix, AZ (Feb. 28 – 2)
    • GFIO Virtual 2-Day
    • April 4 & 11
    • SBLA 2-Day Training
    • Idaho Falls, ID (April 13-14)
    • Assessment & Grading Conference
    • Atlanta, GA (April 24-26) 
    • GFIO 2-Day
    • Salt Lake City, UT (April 26-27)
    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Redefining Student Accountability" (April 2023)

     

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

  • Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
  • Twitter: @TomSchimmer
  • Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
  • TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
  • Facebook: Schimmer Education
  • Website: www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    1 hr 6 min
  • One Word Failure | Jan Chappuis | Anything but Arbitrary

    In Don’t @ Me (2:46), Tom discusses how his One Word for 2022 was an epic failure and how he's going to give itone more shot. Then (7:35) Tom is joined by mentor, author, and consultant Jan Chappuis to discuss the evolution of assessment for learning over the past 20 years. Finally, in Assessment Corner (52:52), Tom highlights why grades should be anything but arbitrary.

     

    • LinkedIn: Jan Chappuis
  • Website: www.janchappuis.com
  •  

    UPCOMING EVENTS

    • Summit on PLC at Work 
    • Phoenix, AZ (Feb. 28 – 2)
    • GFIO Virtual 2-Day
    • April 4 & 11
    • SBLA 2-Day Training
    • Idaho Falls, ID (April 13-14)
    • Assessment & Grading Conference
    • Atlanta, GA (April 24-26) 
    • GFIO 2-Day
    • Salt Lake City, UT (April 26-27)
    • Assessment Center Institute 
    • Las Vegas, NV (May 24-26).

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

  • Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
  • Twitter: @TomSchimmer
  • Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
  • TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
  • Facebook: Schimmer Education
  • Website: www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    1 hr 3 min
  • BONUS: Teach Better ’22 (Part 2)

    In this bonus episode, Tom shares some highlights of the Teach Better '22 conference by interviewing presenters and participants while on Podcast Row. Today's Episode features:

     

    • Megan Balduf
    • Twitter: @MBalduf
  • Kevin Butler
    • Twitter: @TheKevinJButler
  • Tre Gammage
    • Twitter: @tregammage
  • Erik Francis
    • Twitter: @Maverikedu12

     

     

    NEW BOOKS BY TOM:

    • "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"

     

    • "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"

     

     

    CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER

  • Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
  • Twitter: @TomSchimmer
  • Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
  • TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
  • Facebook: Schimmer Education
  • Website: www.tomschimmer.com
  •  

    51 min

About Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning)

From the publisher's feed

Assess THAT with Tom & Nat is a bi-weekly podcast where co-hosts Tom Schimmer and Natalie Vardabasso unpack what it really means to deepen assessment literacy in schools. Known for their dynamic, insightful, and sometimes provocative conversations, Tom and Nat create a space where educators can rethink grading, feedback, and accountability in ways that put student learning first. Each episode blends practical strategies with big-picture thinking, helping teachers and leaders translate research into action without losing sight of the human side of education.

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