In this meeting of The Late Diagnosis Club, Dr Angela Kingdon welcomes Becca Engle, an Autistic educator, author, and advocate whose early disability was recognised, but whose autism was not fully named until adulthood.
Becca was identified as disabled at age three and was once non-speaking. She was repeatedly told she would never be independent, never succeed academically, and never become a teacher. Instead, she grew up navigating education systems that focused on compliance over understanding — systems that demanded silence, masking, and endurance rather than support.
Together, Angela and Becca explore early childhood diagnosis without clarity, the harm of behaviour-based interventions, masking in higher education, autistic anger as a catalyst for advocacy, and what it means to design learning environments that support regulation rather than control.
🪑 Attendees
Chair: Dr Angela Kingdon — Author, community-builder, and Autistic advocate
Guest: Becca Engle — Autistic educator, author, and disability advocate
You: The Listener!
🗒️ Meeting Agenda
- Opening remarks from the Chair
- Member introduction: Early childhood diagnosis and being “almost autistic”
- Discussion: Masking, compliance, and exclusion in education systems
- Regulation, classroom design, and alternatives to seclusion
- Key learnings
- Club announcements🧾 Minutes from the Meeting
1️⃣ Opening Remarks
Angela introduces Becca as someone whose autism was visible early but never fully acknowledged. Despite being labelled with multiple developmental diagnoses, Becca’s needs were misunderstood, and expectations for her future were set painfully low.
What followed was not support, but pressure to conform.
2️⃣ Member Introduction: Becca’s Story
Becca was diagnosed at age three with conditions that stopped short of autism and was repeatedly told she would never speak, learn independently, or attend school. Early intervention included speech therapy, occupational therapy, and exposure to behaviour-based systems that relied on control and seclusion.
Years later, in college, Becca was told she was “too autistic” to teach. She graduated anyway — and later pursued further credentials outside traditional pathways.
Becca formally received an autism diagnosis in adulthood, bringing clarity, legitimacy, and permission to name what had always been true.
3️⃣ Discussion Highlights
- Early diagnosis without clarity: Being labelled disabled but not autistic shaped expectations and access to support
- Compliance over care: Behaviour systems prioritised obedience rather than regulation or understanding
- Masking in higher education: Silence was rewarded; authenticity was punished
- Anger as fuel: Advocacy emerged not from inspiration, but from injustice
- Regulation-focused classrooms: Becca describes her three-zone regulation model as an alternative to calm corners, seclusion, and PBIS
- Stimming and creativity: Writing, knitting, and movement as regulation — not distraction
4️⃣ Key Learnings
- Early identification without understanding can still cause harm
- Compliance systems teach masking, not self-regulation
- Silencing autistic communication is often framed as professionalism
- Anger can be an appropriate and productive response to injustice
- When environments change, people don’t have to disappear to succeed
📌 Notice Board
Becca’s Social Media:
• Instagram: @StitchesStanzas
• Facebook: Becca Engle / Stitches & Stanzas
Becca’s Books:
• Step Into My Shoes: https://a.co/d/hJRVXSG
• Through Our Lens series: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G3XQZ8KV
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