⁠AUTISTIC Viewpoints⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a podcast hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Turrell Burgess⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Daria Brown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. On Episode 12, "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough," Turrell and Daria cover Michael Jackson: the new movie, the songs, the fandom, his intersection with DIRFloortime (what?!) and a few more surprises! Enjoy our special episode on the occasions of AUTISTIC Pride (June 18) and JUNETEENTH (June 19)! We hope you like it as much as we enjoyed making it!⁠

Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Timestamps:

0:14 Introduction

1:56 Turrell's first memories of hearing Michael Jackson

2:27 Daria's first memories of hearing Michael Jackson

3:07 The Jackson 5

3:45 Why the beginning of the movie Michael made Daria so emotional for more than one reason

5:50 Turrell's reflections on the movie Michael

7:05 Turrell's early experiences listening to Michael Jackson growing up

7:29 Daria's real-time experiences of listening to Michael Jackson growing up

8:28 The album OFF THE WALL: our impressions and memories

9:45 The album THRILLER: our impressions, including from the movie, Michael, and our memories

11:57 Thriller in the movie, Michael

12:17 Turrell's favourite songs from Thriller

12:40 Daria's favourite songs from Thriller

13:18 MOTOWN 25 and the movie

14:13 The album BAD: our impressions and memories

15:04 * AUTISTIC Pride tribute *

15:38 Turrell's Fun Fact and Daria's reflections on Bad's impact

16:23 The album DANGEROUS: our impressions and memories

18:10 Daria's concert book from the Victory Tour

21:55 Concert talk

22:50 History and Invincible and the Michael Jackson Experience video game

23:46 Memories of Michael Jackson's death

24:32 The movie's foreshadowing

25:23 What the fans wanted

27:43 Jaafar!

28:16 The movie's success

28:28 Michael Jackson Cancun show

29:52 * JUNETEENTH tribute *

31:07 Canadian connection!

31:46 DIRFloortime connection!

33:25 ICDL connection!

34:50 * Turrell's SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT! *

36:27 Closing remarks

Resources:Wylie Draper: https://www.instagram.com/p/DSgOQKskT5x/ and https://www.instagram.com/p/DW7tFjija-o/

* Thank you to Hungarian recording artist ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Post Analog Disorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the intro/outro music permission: ⁠⁠⁠https://postanalogdisorder.bandcamp.com/album/still-i-rise