⁠AUTISTIC Viewpoints⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a new podcast hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Turrell Burgess⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Daria Brown⁠⁠⁠⁠. This episode, they discuss Autistic Masking with Dr. Angela Kingdon of The Autistic Culture Podcast, reviewing the CAT-Q (Camouflaging Autistic Traits Questionnaire), their scores, and other aspects of Autistic masking including their experiences, self-judgment, and challenges.

Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/⁠⁠⁠⁠

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⁠Timestamps:

00:00 Introductions

01:33 Getting into the topic of Autistic Masking

04:13 Masking as survival skills

05:43 Everybody masks

07:37 Personality dynamics with masking

08:42 The Camouflaging Autistic Traits Questionnaire (the CAT-Q )

14:03 Turrell and Daria's CAT-Q scores

15:41 Does the CAT-Q really get at Autistic Masking?

18:40 Angela's Autistic Masking story

27:38 Daria's personal insights

29:45 Turrell's personal insights

31:15 Self-judgment around Autistic masking

36:18 "Finding the strays"

37:03 Angela's challenge to be showing up authentic38:34 Difference between Autistic masking and neurotypical masking/impression management

42:45 Summary

44:45 Angela's new Late Diagnosis Club podcast

45:57 Preview of Episode 5

Links to Resources:

• Angela's Master's dissertation on self-diagnosis versus "official" diagnosis: ⁠https://www.autisticculturepodcast.com/p/is-autistic-self-identification-valid⁠
• The Camouflaging Autistic Traits Questionnaire (the CAT-Q ): ⁠https://embrace-autism.com/cat-q/⁠
• Interpreting your CAT-Q scores: ⁠https://embrace-autism.com/interpreting-your-cat-q-scores/⁠

• Podcast episode with Autistic self-advocate Mickey Rowe on acting: ⁠https://affectautism.com/2023/03/31/strengths/⁠
• Podcast episode on Autistic Masking book with Dr. Amy Pearson and Kieran Rose: ⁠https://affectautism.com/2023/11/24/masking/⁠
• The Autistic Culture podcast: ⁠https://www.autisticculturepodcast.com/⁠
• The Late Diagnosis Club podcast: ⁠https://autisticculture.lpages.co/late-diagnosis-club/⁠

* Thank you to Hungarian recording artist ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Post Analog Disorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the intro/outro music permission: ⁠https://postanalogdisorder.bandcamp.com/album/still-i-rise⁠