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  • Is Joe Lubin the Michael Saylor of Ethereum? | The $SBET Opportunity

    Joe Lubin returns to Bankless to break down his latest bold move—launching SBET, a publicly traded vehicle designed to accumulate and deploy Ether as a strategic treasury asset.

    We unpack whether Lubin is stepping into the Michael Saylor role for Ethereum, how SBET might outperform Bitcoin-backed models, and why ETH is poised for a monetary renaissance. From regulatory wins to Ethereum’s evolving narrative on Wall Street, this episode explores how ETH can become a multi-trillion-dollar asset and a dominant store of value in the next economic supercycle.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    0:38 Getting Sued by The SEC
    7:55 $SBET
    16:32 The Michael Saylor of ETH
    23:25 $SBET (ETH) vs $MSTR (BTC)
    27:16 Valuing ETH
    28:30 Wall Street Narratives
    30:52 ETH’s Performance
    36:53 ETH as Collateral
    40:07 Onboarding Others
    46:52 ETH as SoV
    49:18 What ETH Needs
    50:52 Joining Forces
    53:08 ETH’s Sentiment Shift
    56:53 Genius Act
    58:44 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Joe Lubin
    https://x.com/ethereumJoseph

    SharpLink Gaming ($SBET)
    https://www.sharplink.com/

    Consensys
    https://consensys.io/

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    56 min
  • ROLLUP: Circle IPO Hits $20B | Stablecoin Summer Is On | Trump Wallet Chaos | EF Deploys Special For

    This week, Ryan and David unpack Circle’s explosive $20B IPO—crypto’s second biggest—and what it signals about Wall Street’s newfound love for stablecoins. They break down the confusing Trump wallet drama, where even Trump’s own sons deny involvement, and explore why Pump.fun’s rumored $4B token raise has the industry split. Ethereum enters “wartime mode” as the Foundation lays off staff and spins up a lean new R&D force called Protocol. Plus, Ray Dalio says “a bit of Bitcoin,” Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill adds $2.4T to the deficit, and SBF is headed to Netflix.

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    TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

    0:00 Intro

    0:41 Circle IPO
    https://x.com/circle/status/1930624298760143333
    https://www.theblock.co/post/356602/circle-seeks-7-2-billion-valuation-in-upsized-ipo
    https://x.com/ruiixyz/status/1930386144216396176
    https://x.com/EconomyApp/status/1930657679418241238
    https://x.com/jerallaire/status/1930595978215637360
    https://x.com/EffortCapital/status/1930621939279679542

    9:34 Markets

    12:23 Trump BBB
    https://x.com/alifarhat79/status/1930265604105150647
    https://x.com/alifarhat79/status/1930256218108383338
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930452348234805665
    https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1930659468536144062
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1929954109689606359
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1929993372586152364

    23:53 Pump.fun is getting ready for a token
    https://blockworks.co/news/pumpdotfun-token-sale
    https://x.com/nextfckingthing/status/1929871539018576257
    https://dune.com/tiagocryptonary/pump-fun-analytics
    https://x.com/lmrankhan/status/1928163796691845133
    https://x.com/VannaCharmer/status/1930318687333986639

    32:00 Ethereum Foundation announced another big change!
    https://x.com/TimBeiko/status/1929620145984753843
    https://x.com/econoar/status/1930361688047661495
    https://blog.ethereum.org/2025/06/04/ef-treasury-policy
    https://x.com/centauridoteth/status/1929896351447372191
    https://x.com/ViktorBunin/status/1929945974316662804

    44:43 Strategy found a new way how to raise more money for Bitcoin
    https://x.com/saylor/status/1929635975367475403
    https://x.com/DylanLeClair_/status/1929661889963086170

    49:01 Trump team launched a crypto wallet - or did they?
    https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1929943367892283828
    https://x.com/EricTrump/status/1929966635445576103
    https://x.com/0xLeoInRio/status/1929955682037731340
    https://x.com/molly0xFFF/status/1930351820288741708
    https://x.com/Ronxyz00/status/1929884476328276036
    https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1930015280094429381

    57:50 SBF is heading to Netflix!
    https://x.com/netflix/status/1928153876475097117

    1:00:26 Bankless is looking for talent!
    https://x.com/i/jobs/1929890683927638133
    https://x.com/i/jobs/1929889475783520481

    1:01:38 Closing & Disclaimer

    1:02:01 Moment of Zen
    https://x.com/l3olanza/status/1930320045139173881

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    1 hr 3 min
  • LIMITLESS - AI DEBATE: Runaway Superintelligence or Normal Technology? | Daniel Kokotajlo vs Arvind

    Two visions for the future of AI clash in this debate between Daniel Kokotajlo and Arvind Narayanan.

    Is AI a revolutionary new species destined for runaway superintelligence, or just another step in humanity’s technological evolution—like electricity or the internet?

    Daniel, a former OpenAI researcher and author of AI 2027, argues for a fast-approaching intelligence explosion. Arvind, a Princeton professor and co-author of AI Snake Oil, contends that AI is powerful but ultimately controllable and slow to reshape society. Moderated by Ryan and David, this conversation dives into the crux of capability vs. power, economic transformation, and the future of democratic agency in an AI-driven world.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    4:44 Is AI Normal Tech?
    30:20 Capability & Power
    44:52 Manageable or Existential?
    52:36 AGI Milestone
    1:00:31 AI by 2030
    1:12:07 Making Sense
    1:16:08 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Daniel Kokotajlo
    https://x.com/dkokotajlo

    Arvind Narayanan
    https://x.com/random_walker

    Two Paths For AI - Daniel
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions/two-paths-for-ai

    AI as Normal Technology - Arvind
    https://knightcolumbia.org/content/ai-as-normal-technology

    AI 2027 - Daniel
    https://ai-2027.com/

    AI Snake Oil - Arvind
    https://www.aisnakeoil.com/
    https://www.amazon.com/Snake-Oil-Artificial-Intelligence-Difference/dp/069124913X

    Pause AI
    https://pauseai.info/pdoom

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    1 hr 15 min
  • Doppler: A New Way to Launch Tokens with Austin Adams

    Austin Adams, founder of Whetstone and creator of Doppler, joins to discuss the next evolution in token launches.

    We explore why the world needs more tokens—not fewer—and how Doppler enables creators, apps, and DAOs to build highly customized launchpads using modular tooling. We cover token market design, dynamic bonding curves to prevent sniping, and how this infrastructure could unlock more meaningful, value-connected tokens—from meme coins with DAOs to public market IPOs on-chain.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    4:08 Excess Tokens And Pushbacks
    10:02 Doppler Explained
    17:05 The Solution
    25:37 Conserving Liquidity
    32:58 Maximizing IPOs Using Doppler
    42:32 Token to Real Value
    50:31 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Austin Adams
    https://x.com/AustinAdams10

    Whetstone Research
    https://x.com/whetstonedotcc

    Doppler
    https://www.doppler.lol/

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    51 min
  • Mike Novogratz: Bitcoin’s Escape Velocity, Bond Market Crisis, Crypto x AI, & the Genius Act

    Mike Novogratz returns to Bankless to unpack Bitcoin’s surge to new all-time highs and what it means in a world grappling with fiscal uncertainty.

    We dive into the unfolding bond market crisis, why the Genius Act marks a new chapter for stablecoins, the tokenization of traditional finance, and how Galaxy is uniquely positioned at the crossroads of crypto and AI. This is a front-row seat to the changing macro tides and crypto’s place in the new financial order.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    0:18 Bitcoin Hitting All-Time High
    1:57 Trump’s Tariffs' Effect on Bitcoin
    5:56 Liz Truss Moment 2.0?
    7:33 US Liz Truss’s Effect
    8:49 Bitcoin, Gold, and the US Dollar
    12:11 BTC as a New World Asset
    15:29 Treasuries in Decline
    18:05 Galaxy Going Public
    21:26 The Genius Act
    24:32 Anti-Crypto Army Gone?
    27:03 US Consumer Crypto Market
    31:22 Tokenizing Galaxy Assets on ETH
    34:08 A Roadmap From SEC in the Future?
    36:53 Year of Crypto IPOs?
    38:30 TradFi Fades, Crypto Rises
    39:46 The Terra Luna Case
    44:05 Future of Galaxy and Crypto
    50:48 Building and Scaling Data Centers
    55:18 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Mike Novogratz
    https://x.com/novogratz

    Galaxy Digital
    https://www.galaxy.com/

    Tokenization & RWAs (Galaxy Report)
    https://www.galaxy.com/research/insights/tokenization-and-the-future-of-finance/

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    59 min
  • Mike Novogratz: Bitcoin’s Escape Velocity, Bond Market Crisis, Crypto x AI, & the Genius Act

    Mike Novogratz returns to Bankless to unpack Bitcoin’s surge to new all-time highs and what it means in a world grappling with fiscal uncertainty.

    We dive into the unfolding bond market crisis, why the Genius Act marks a new chapter for stablecoins, the tokenization of traditional finance, and how Galaxy is uniquely positioned at the crossroads of crypto and AI. This is a front-row seat to the changing macro tides and crypto’s place in the new financial order.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    0:18 Bitcoin Hitting All-Time High
    1:57 Trump’s Tariffs' Effect on Bitcoin
    5:56 Liz Truss Moment 2.0?
    7:33 US Liz Truss’s Effect
    8:49 Bitcoin, Gold, and the US Dollar
    12:11 BTC as a New World Asset
    15:29 Treasuries in Decline
    18:05 Galaxy Going Public
    21:26 The Genius Act
    24:32 Anti-Crypto Army Gone?
    27:03 US Consumer Crypto Market
    31:22 Tokenizing Galaxy Assets on ETH
    34:08 A Roadmap From SEC in the Future?
    36:53 Year of Crypto IPOs?
    38:30 TradFi Fades, Crypto Rises
    39:46 The Terra Luna Case
    44:05 Future of Galaxy and Crypto
    50:48 Building and Scaling Data Centers
    55:18 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Mike Novogratz
    https://x.com/novogratz

    Galaxy Digital
    https://www.galaxy.com/

    Tokenization & RWAs (Galaxy Report)
    https://www.galaxy.com/research/insights/tokenization-and-the-future-of-finance/

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    59 min
  • Mike Novogratz: Bitcoin’s Escape Velocity, Bond Market Crisis, Crypto x AI, & the Genius Act

    Mike Novogratz returns to Bankless to unpack Bitcoin’s surge to new all-time highs and what it means in a world grappling with fiscal uncertainty.

    We dive into the unfolding bond market crisis, why the Genius Act marks a new chapter for stablecoins, the tokenization of traditional finance, and how Galaxy is uniquely positioned at the crossroads of crypto and AI. This is a front-row seat to the changing macro tides and crypto’s place in the new financial order.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    0:18 Bitcoin Hitting All-Time High
    1:57 Trump’s Tariffs' Effect on Bitcoin
    5:56 Liz Truss Moment 2.0?
    7:33 US Liz Truss’s Effect
    8:49 Bitcoin, Gold, and the US Dollar
    12:11 BTC as a New World Asset
    15:29 Treasuries in Decline
    18:05 Galaxy Going Public
    21:26 The Genius Act
    24:32 Anti-Crypto Army Gone?
    27:03 US Consumer Crypto Market
    31:22 Tokenizing Galaxy Assets on ETH
    34:08 A Roadmap From SEC in the Future?
    36:53 Year of Crypto IPOs?
    38:30 TradFi Fades, Crypto Rises
    39:46 The Terra Luna Case
    44:05 Future of Galaxy and Crypto
    50:48 Building and Scaling Data Centers
    55:18 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Mike Novogratz
    https://x.com/novogratz

    Galaxy Digital
    https://www.galaxy.com/

    Tokenization & RWAs (Galaxy Report)
    https://www.galaxy.com/research/insights/tokenization-and-the-future-of-finance/

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    59 min
  • ROLLUP: JD Vance Bitcoin 2025 | $425M ETH MicroStrategy | Tariffs Blocked | Stablecoin Summer

    This week, Ryan and David break down the political storm brewing around crypto. From JD Vance’s fiery speech at Bitcoin 2025 to the Trump meme coin dinner that triggered bipartisan backlash. They dive into Ethereum’s biggest capital inflow yet, as a public company raises $425 million to buy and stake ETH, drawing comparisons to MicroStrategy. They also cover the court ruling that halted Trump-era tariffs, the Circle IPO finally moving forward, and early signs of a “Stablecoin Summer” as banks eye their own dollar-backed coins. Plus, the growing risks of copycat crypto acquisition vehicles, and why some say the next GBTC-style blowup could already be forming.

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    TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

    0:00 Intro

    0:37 JD Vance Bitcoin Conference 2025
    https://x.com/cointelegraph/status/1927766577845305579

    2:59 Crypto Prices

    5:13 US court blocks most Trump tariffs, says president exceeded his authority
    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/us-court-blocks-trumps-liberation-231041016.html
    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114588777076099501

    12:29 The microstrategy of ETH!
    https://cointelegraph.com/news/sharplink-ethereum-treasury-joseph-lubin-board-chair
    https://x.com/econoar/status/1927380671334404511
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1927344185595633687
    https://x.com/hanni_abu/status/1927408350527922585

    18:39 Gamestop & Trump Media Buying Bitcoin & SolSolStrategy
    https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1927680683847119289
    https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1927352308859330651
    https://x.com/SolanaFloor/status/1927408166922293535
    https://x.com/mikeippolito_/status/1927450775870931015

    25:26 Trump Dinner
    https://x.com/BillSun_AI/status/1925728406974443607/video/1
    https://x.com/Mollyploofkins/status/1926098775233241537
    https://x.com/justinsuntron/status/192576411185 9597602
    https://x.com/USHouseFSC/status/1925625286818689066
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-raise-red-flags-trumps-private-dinner-meme-coin-hol-rcna204293
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-22/protesters-yell-shame-at-guests-of-trump-s-memecoin-dinner
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNJD-vKtrPc

    36:22 The Annual Bitcoin (Stablecoin) Conference Week
    https://x.com/UnderCoercion/status/1927885141059260768
    https://x.com/TheBitcoinConf/status/1927914310212407481
    https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1926324131923976224
    https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1927763954178150848
    https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1927767083217039818
    https://x.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1927509752931635256
    https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1927479261780127747
    https://x.com/DogCandles/status/1927879603055415557

    44:08 Echo announced Sonar
    https://x.com/echodotxyz/status/1927422067801997336

    46:18 Circle filed for an IPO on the NYSE
    https://x.com/CoinDesk/status/1927326167033356458

    48:37 Some of the biggest US banks are about to launch joined stablecoin
    https://www.wsj.com/finance/banking/crypto-stablecoin-big-banks-a841059e
    https://x.com/CryptoHayes/status/1925739441634652654
    https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1925967578540781743

    51:55 Closing & Disclaimers

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    52 min
  • LIMITLESS - The Intelligence Curse: AI Makes Us All Obsolete | Luke Drago & Rudolf

    Welcome to Limitless. Today we’re joined by Luke Drago and Rudolf, authors of the powerful essay series "The Intelligence Curse."

    Together, we explore a future where artificial general intelligence (AGI) threatens to upend the economic and social contracts that underpin modern civilization. Will AI empower us or make us obsolete?

    We unpack how labor-replacing AI could dismantle the very incentives that once gave rise to liberal democracies, social mobility, and human-centered innovation—and what it might take to build a future worth living in.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 What is the Intelligence Curse
    4:29 Resource Curse
    8:20 Pyramid Replacement
    18:19 Institutional Pushback
    21:25 Capital, AGI & Human Ambition
    32:00 Liberalism Falls Apart?
    36:30 Powerful Actors
    41:15 Rentier States
    46:19 Human Labor in a AGI World
    52:46 Nation States
    57:37 Shaping the Social Contract
    1:06:23 AI Snake Oil?
    1:07:41 Balance of Power
    1:08:51 Breaking the Intelligence Curse
    1:16:45 Vitalik’s Defensive Accelerationism
    1:18:16 Diffusion
    1:19:58 Open-Source AI
    1:22:06 Democratization
    1:24:06 Who Wins?
    1:26:43 Action Items
    1:29:17 The Positive Scenario
    1:30:21 Closing

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    RESOURCES

    Luke Drago
    https://x.com/luke_drago_

    Rudolf Laine
    https://x.com/LRudL_

    Time Op-ed
    https://time.com/7289692/when-ai-replaces-workers/

    Intelligence Curse
    https://intelligence-curse.ai/

    Contact Form
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    AI Snake Oil - Arvind Narayanan
    https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691249131/ai-snake-oil

    Vitalik’s Defensive Accelerationism
    https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2023/11/27/techno_optimism.html

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    1 hr 36 min
  • Are We Headed for an Altseason Melt-up? | Michael Nadeau’s Defi Report #1

    Is altseason finally here or just getting started?

    Michael Nadeau of the DeFi Report joins Ryan to break down the data behind a potential crypto rotation. We cover why ETH and select alts may be poised to outperform, how macro conditions are fueling risk-on sentiment, and why fundamentals—like protocol cash flows and MEV—matter more than ever. Michael also shares his current portfolio and reveals what he’s buying right now. If you’re positioning for what’s next, this is your rotation signal.

    Michael Nadeau & The DeFi Report:
    https://x.com/JustDeauIt
    https://thedefireport.io/research/altseason-melt-up
    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1g2H1VaAKHWB5trl1tRHRYc68lIqZ8tWnzcLnkasAVYk/edit?usp=sharing

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro

    0:23 Vince McMahon Meme
    https://x.com/QuintenFrancois/status/1925543793371054122

    1:10 DeFi Report #1 & Crypto Fundamentals

    7:07 Mike’s Trading Time Horizon

    9:13 Alt-Season Melt-up?

    15:43 Macro Catalysts

    25:57 2021-2022 Cycle vs. Today

    29:03 Bitcoin & ETH Moving Average Chart

    32:46 Different Types of Trading/TA Fundamentals

    36:36 Long-Term Holder Supply Chart

    43:09 MVRV Z-Score

    48:39 ETH/BTC Ratio & Altcoin Season?

    53:02 Mike’s Portfolio

    1:00:40 When to Sell

    1:02:33 How Durable is Solana’s MEV Infra

    1:04:59 Closing & Disclaimers

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    1 hr 6 min

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