Be There in Five

In part 2 of this quarter's series where Kate answers listener voicemails, she covers a lot of ground with a wide range of topical depth. This episode covers:

-A discussion of the 'Troubled Teen' industry and the under the radar abuse of boot camps/wilderness therapy camps/conversion therapy programs that con parents into thinking that legitimate therapeutic treatment is being provided to their children. -An overview of what happened with Chrissy Teigen & Courtney Stoddard and a diatribe about the complexities and propaganda of cancel culture vs. general accountability -A nostalgic detour through official hot girl shoes at different points in Kate's life (remember when Sambas were like Loubs?) -Lauren Conrad: Mob boss or BFF? A thinkpiece on the term 'loyalty' on reality television -True Life: A listener called into the real Delilah. This is her story. -Then, an answer that is so long, half is (already recorded) and needs to be put on Patreon, where Kate responds to a 2 part voicemail from a listener struggling with purpose, contentment, comparison, job satisfaction, and ongoing disappointment due to deviating from their original goals in life. Enjoy!

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WORKS CITED:

https://www.youthrights.org/issues/medical-autonomy/the-troubled-teen-industry/

https://www.hrc.org/resources/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-involved/trevor-advocacy/50-bills-50-states/about-conversion-therapy/

https://www.thecut.com/2021/05/courtney-stodden-chrissy-teigen-told-me-to-kill-myself.html

https://www.fastcompany.com/3057545/why-millennial-women-are-burning-out

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

A two part episode! This week, Kate had so many interesting voicemails, she broke it up into two parts. In part 1, she answers some of the lighter fare, such as:

How would she define a Hot Girl Summer? and other musings about the pursuit of hotness in our youth, feat. yet another country music tangent.

How does she feel about Swifties calling Olivia Rodrigo a snake because she sent a PR package to Kim K?

Where the hell do you make real friends as an adult? How does she feel about shopping dates? feat. an unsolicited dressing room soliloquy

What's her dream fictional tv/movie location for a dinner party and the corresponding dream fictional cast? feat. an inevitable Gilmore Girls tangent

What's the deal with women who with public platforms being accused of attention-seeking behavior?

Does Kate know she's perpetuated Country Apple erasure in the context of B&BW scents?

Tune in for part 2 as she tackles heavier topics, e.g. the troubled teen industry, MOH drama, feelings of failure, Chrissy Teigen, managing parental expectations, and more!

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A two part episode! This week, Kate had so many interesting voicemails, she broke it up into two parts. In part 1, she answers some of the lighter fare, such as:

How would she define a Hot Girl Summer? and other musings about the pursuit of hotness in our youth, feat. yet another country music tangent.

How does she feel about Swifties calling Olivia Rodrigo a snake because she sent a PR package to Kim K?

Where the hell do you make real friends as an adult? How does she feel about shopping dates? feat. an unsolicited dressing room soliloquy

What's her dream fictional tv/movie location for a dinner party and the corresponding dream fictional cast? feat. an inevitable Gilmore Girls tangent

What's the deal with women who with public platforms being accused of attention-seeking behavior?

Does Kate know she's perpetuated Country Apple erasure in the context of B&BW scents?

Tune in for part 2 as she tackles heavier topics, e.g. the troubled teen industry, MOH drama, feelings of failure, Chrissy Teigen, managing parental expectations, and more!

To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/bethereinfive. Don’t miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods.

As a listener, you’ll get 10% off your first month by visiting BetterHelp.com/bethereinfive

Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code BETHEREINFIVE to save an additional 15% off your first order.

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This week, Kate discusses a topic that combines her interests in both weddings and purity culture by reading listener-submitted stories about church-mandated pre-marital counseling, something she had a particularly interesting experience doing. This counseling is often done not by clergy members but by random married couples at the church. Without curriculum regulation, married couples teach engaged couples how to be married based on their personal anecdotal best practices, and the results range from quite troubling to absolutely hilarious, depending on who you get. Not meant to be offensive, just to share experiences about something that is mandatory for many couples, and has potential, but often underdelivers with archaic recommendations for gender roles, birth control, finances, etc. Enjoy!

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WORKS CITED

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/10/premarital-cohabitation-divorce/573817/

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/11/06/marriage-and-cohabitation-in-the-u-s/

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This week, Kate discusses a topic that combines her interests in both weddings and purity culture by reading listener-submitted stories about church-mandated pre-marital counseling, something she had a particularly interesting experience doing. This counseling is often done not by clergy members but by random married couples at the church. Without curriculum regulation, married couples teach engaged couples how to be married based on their personal anecdotal best practices, and the results range from quite troubling to absolutely hilarious, depending on who you get. Not meant to be offensive, just to share experiences about something that is mandatory for many couples, and has potential, but often under delivers with archaic recommendations for gender roles, birth control, finances, etc. Enjoy!

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Get 25% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout

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WORKS CITED

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/10/premarital-cohabitation-divorce/573817/

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/11/06/marriage-and-cohabitation-in-the-u-s/

This week, Kate reviews Taylor Swift's Grammy-winning, iconic sophomore album, Fearless. She examines it both from the lens of nostalgia for when it first came out and also details her reaction to the new version released April 9th. From her favorite songs, to opinions on improved re-records, to favorite vault songs, to [shocking] emotional reflections on when she first heard these songs, Kate dives into the album like it's brand new. Beyond that, she hopes to tie it back to the poetry that lies within choosing this title for her first re-record; perhaps the most Fearless act of all- TS going out of her way to re-record all of her music and take back what's rightfully hers. Enjoy!

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Today's episode is a really fun bonus interview featuring Laura Tremaine (host of 10 Things To Tell You, author of "Share Your Stuff. I'll Go First.") Laura recently wrote a 'guidebook to life-giving conversations for deeper relationships' that is designed to help you identify unique details and anecdotes from your own life and cultivate genuine connections with others. These connections, of course, can only be made if you do one thing first: share your stuff. Kate and Laura talk about a variety of things, from her upbringing, to her time in the mom blogging world, to why people aren't comfortable sharing, ot the importance of going deeper with friendships, to church camps, magical moments, examples from her book, Troop Beverly Hills, and more! Enjoy!

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This week, Kate takes on a new term, "cheugy," a made-up word from Tiktok that, via aggressive media coverage, has been thrust into the social lexicon. This episode examines the struggle between being lighthearted/letting comedy exist and the diversity that lies within financial security of millennials that is often forgotten when slinging semi-classist tropes. She dives into the definition of cheugy, attempting to validate the concept of being 'off-trend' by examining which items named were actual trends, and if this legitimately is a term that would be fairly applied across genders and social classes. Fearing the reincarnation of society's love for terms like 'basic,' Kate argues why there is millennial sensitivity to the early 2010s trends, and what Pinterest, bloggers, early influencers, etc. did for women. And as a result, the ways in which their entrepreneurial efforts are often dismissed in favor of mocking their hobbies. TLDR, it's cheugy as hell.

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WORKS CITED

Kiera Breaugh: Tiktok; Instagram; YouTube

Original Cheugy Tiktok: User deleted

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millennials/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/style/cheugy.html

https://www.thecut.com/2014/10/what-do-you-really-mean-by-basic-bitch.html

https://www.thecut.com/2021/05/cheugy-is-hard-to-define-but-easy-to-identify.html

https://popcrush.com/what-is-cheugy-slang-describe-millennials-explained-tiktok/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9546995/What-cheugy-Inside-viral-new-term-millennials.html

https://fashionatbrown.com/archive/2019/11/25/the-permeation-of-fashion-in-middle-america-a-narrative

https://archive.curbed.com/2019/12/19/21024424/interior-design-trends-2010-2019

In this episode, Kate does an unforeseen spinoff mini dive into something that wasn't on her radar until recently: highly instagrammable shake/smoothie/tea/coffee shops that are secretly tied to an MLM. With data showing that these 'nutrition shops' lose thousands annually, they have widely become known to be a covert recruiting tactic for Herbalife that are posing as mom & pop shops in small towns and cities alike. With minimalistic branding, instagram-friendly backdrops, little to no ingredient transparency (but appealing drink names), friendly staff, and financial incentives to share on social media, these storefronts provide all the ingredients for the thing Kate hates the most: a manipulative enterprise that preys on vulnerable people in the name of help, nutrition, religion, success, or any abstract characteristic that a person is both unqualified to make and deceptive in their solutions. At one point there is a tangent into numerology & Pythagorus' (of pythagorean theorem fame, obv) cult, but, par for the course on this show. Kate also reads e-mails from listeners who wrote in to spill the tea they once unknowingly drank. Enjoy!

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Works cited:

https://iamherbalifenutrition.com/healthy-weight/herbalife-nutrition-clubs/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/herbalife-a-pyramid-scheme_b_4220426

https://www.mlmnewsreport.com/herbalife-linked-to-drug-trafficking-money-laundering-in-new-investigative-report/

https://www.plainsite.org/realitycheck/herbalife.html

https://sweetscienceoffighting.com/herbalife-side-effects-and-horror-stories/

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-xpm-2013-feb-15-la-fi-herbalife-latino-20130216-story.html

In this episode, Kate does an unforeseen spinoff mini dive into something that wasn't on her radar until recently: highly instagrammable shake/smoothie/tea/coffee shops that are secretly tied to an MLM. With data showing that these 'nutrition shops' lose thousands annually, they have widely become known to be a covert recruiting tactic for Herbalife that are posing as mom & pop shops in small towns and cities alike. With minimalistic branding, instagram-friendly backdrops, little to no ingredient transparency (but appealing drink names), friendly staff, and financial incentives to share on social media, these storefronts provide all the ingredients for the thing Kate hates the most: a manipulative enterprise that preys on vulnerable people in the name of help, nutrition, religion, success, or any abstract characteristic that a person is both unqualified to make and deceptive in their solutions. At one point there is a tangent into numerology & Pythagorus’ (of pythagorean theorem fame, obv) cult, but, par for the course on this show. Kate also reads e-mails from listeners who wrote in to spill the tea they once unknowingly drank. Enjoy!

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Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor. Many are available as soon as today.

Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code BETHEREINFIVE to save an additional 15% off your first
order.

Get 25% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout.

Get 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit
ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE to start your Ritual today.

*choice of sponsors in adjacent categories explained at length in episode!

Works cited:

https://iamherbalifenutrition.com/healthy-weight/herbalife-nutrition-clubs/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/herbalife-a-pyramid-scheme_b_4220426

https://www.mlmnewsreport.com/herbalife-linked-to-drug-trafficking-money-laundering-in-new-investigative-report/

https://www.plainsite.org/realitycheck/herbalife.html

https://sweetscienceoffighting.com/herbalife-side-effects-and-horror-stories/

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-xpm-2013-feb-15-la-fi-herbalife-latino-20130216-story.html