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Ram says the entire market is now one giant AI trade. Chris argues the boom is backed by real fundamentals. Austin asks: is AI creating value for the right companies?
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Circle just made history as the first publicly traded company to run a token presale, raising $222 million from BlackRock, Apollo, ICE, and a16z at a $3 billion valuation — and the stock went up.
At the same time, Coinbase reported a $394 million loss, cut 700 jobs, and suffered a five-hour outage.
Ram, Austin, and Chris work through what's really happening: whether Circle's Arc is the institutional payment rail the industry has been waiting for or a financial engineering play, whether Coinbase's troubles are cyclical or structural, and whether the AI-driven market rally is a bubble forming or a fundamental shift that makes the dotcom comparison wrong.
Hosts:
Austin Campbell (@austincampbell) — Founder, Zero Knowledge Consulting; Adjunct Professor, NYU Stern
Ram Ahluwalia, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida
Chris Perkins, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management
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Ram says the entire market is now one giant AI trade. Chris argues the boom is backed by real fundamentals. Austin asks: is AI creating value for the right companies?
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Coinbase One: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained.
Heads up!
If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, X, Unchained and wherever you get your podcasts.
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Circle just made history as the first publicly traded company to run a token presale, raising $222 million from BlackRock, Apollo, ICE, and a16z at a $3 billion valuation — and the stock went up.
At the same time, Coinbase reported a $394 million loss, cut 700 jobs, and suffered a five-hour outage.
Ram, Austin, and Chris work through what's really happening: whether Circle's Arc is the institutional payment rail the industry has been waiting for or a financial engineering play, whether Coinbase's troubles are cyclical or structural, and whether the AI-driven market rally is a bubble forming or a fundamental shift that makes the dotcom comparison wrong.
Hosts:
Austin Campbell (@austincampbell) — Founder, Zero Knowledge Consulting; Adjunct Professor, NYU Stern
Ram Ahluwalia, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida
Chris Perkins, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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