In the sixth episode of season two, we're joined by writer David Lee Williams (or is it Hawk?) to discuss his ⁠2022 Black List⁠ script Clementine — a high-octane thriller with the real-time propulsion of Run Lola Run, fueled by the visceral maternal energy of J.Lo's The Mother.

Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠David L Williams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠X⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Useful links:

'Forever Purge' Director to Helm Thriller 'Clementine'

Deadline Article on Director Attachment

Scriptshadow - 'Clementine' Review and Interview

Go Into The Story - David L Williams Interview w/Scott Myers

In the fifth episode of season two, we're joined by actor, writer and human rights activist, Alyssa Ross to talk about her Michael Phelps biopic, Resurfaced, which featured on the 2022 Black List.

Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alyssa Ross⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠X⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Useful links:

TV Pilot Trailer - The Humanitarians

Alyssa's Website

Mentioned Article about Resurfaced on SwimSwam

In our fourth episode of season two, we're joined by spec king, Dan Kunka to discuss his ⁠2014 Black List⁠ script, Yellowstone Falls - a 52-page script with minimal dialogue and few human characters.

Set in a post-apocalyptic world where a catastrophic event has stripped the humanity from most survivors, leaving them as mutated threats. At its core, it's the story of a mother wolf who becomes separated from her mate when their pack flees to safety. Now alone, she must defend her cubs from an oncoming swarm of these dehumanized creatures.

Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dan Kunka⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠X⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠BlueSky⁠

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Useful links:

Deadline - QED buys 'Yellowstone Falls'

Deadline - 'Lift' Spec Sale

Final Draft - Spec Spotlight: Lift

Creative Screenwriting - Interview

In the third episode of season two, we're joined by former journalist Anna Klassen (Newsweek, The Daily Beast, BuzzFeed) to discuss her 2017 Black List script When Lightning Strikes — a coming-of-age story exploring the early life of J.K. Rowling, the novelist who conjured the magical world of Harry Potter.

Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Anna Klassen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on X, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ and BlueSky

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Useful links:

Final Draft - How Anna Klassen Turned Competition Wins into a Thriving Career

Canvas Rebel - Meet Anna Klassen

The Cosmophage - Anna Klassen

The Script Lab - Interview

Into The Script - Taking The Industry By Storm: An Interview with Screenwriter Anna Klassen

Shoutout LA - Meet Anna Klassen | Screenwriter

In our second episode of season two, we welcome Travis Braun to the podcast to discuss his 2022 Black List script, Dying For You. Travis made Black List history in December 2024, by becoming the first writer to top the list twice - and if that wasn't enough, he did it in successive years! Well done, TB.

Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Travis Braun⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠

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Deadline - Travis Braun and Black List make history

Deadline - 'One Night Only' sells to Universal

Deadline - 'Bad Boy' package taken to EFM

In our Season 2 premiere, we welcome Elyse Hollander to discuss her 2016 Black List-topping script Blonde Ambition—a Madonna biopic chronicling the pop icon's rise through the sexism-fueled music industry of the early 1980s.

After selling to Universal with Michael De Luca producing, the project sparked massive controversy when Madonna herself took to social media to publicly denounce it.

For the first time, Elyse opens up about the media firestorm, the personal toll of being targeted by one of the world's biggest stars, and what it's really like when your breakthrough script becomes a lightning rod for public debate.

Guest: ⁠⁠⁠Elyse Hollander ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠

Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky

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Useful links:

New York Times article on Madonna criticism

BBC fact-check Elyse's screenplay

THR article on Madonna controversy

Deadline article on Madonna reaction

People - 'Madonna to write and direct her own biopic'

Madonna's Netflix limited series announcement

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Happy New Year! Let us be the first to welcome you to 2025!

Today we bring you a special - surprise - episode with screenwriting career coach, Lee Jessup.

May Lee provide you with inspiration to kickstart the new year as you stare at that fresh blank page - full of potential.

Take a Deeper Dive:

The script consultant that both our host and Crosby Selander have employed is Andrew Hilton who goes by the pseudonym:The Screenplay Mechanic.

His services can be accessed here.

Competition details for Script Pipeline can be found here.

Lee Jessup recently hosted the Final Draft Write On podcast, discussing the state of the industry for screenwriters with Bellevue manager, Jeff Portnoy.

Listen to the packed episode here.

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In our final bonus episode with lit managers of season one, we speak with producer Kate Sharp of Bellevue Productions.

Kate is the lit manager of season one guests: Alexandra Tran and Jessica Welsh.

Take a Deeper Dive:

Interesting article about the curious case of copyright as it applies to Frank Capra's It's A Wonderful Life - here.

The script we talk about that sold for $2M to MGM Amazon Studios was a spec by Nyad scribe, Julia Cox. Article link here.

After Kate and I spoke, another spec hit the market (Alignment) about the travails of AI - this time from an unknown, unrepped screenwriter - and sold for $1.25M (against $3.25M) to Fifth Season. Link to that story here.

Guest: ⁠⁠⁠Kate Sharp on Instagram

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In our third of four bonus episodes with lit managers, we speak with genre aficionado Matthew Dartnell of Writ Large.

Matt is the lit manager of season one guest: Austin Everett.

Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Dartnell⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠

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In our second bonus episode with literary managers, we speak with the manager of our very own host, Chris Coggins, over at Heroes and Villains Entertainment.

Chris is the lit manager of season one guest: Noga Pnueli.

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