In this episode of Growth Over Goals, Jordan Montgomery sits down with Bobby Gruenewald—pastor, innovator, and creator of the YouVersion Bible App, which is nearing one billion downloads worldwide. From his unexpected start as a Christian rapper to becoming one of Fast Company’s 100 Most Innovative People, Bobby’s journey is a testament to obedience, vision, and the power of faith-driven innovation.

Together, Jordan and Bobby explore:

The origin story of YouVersion, born in an airport security line and launched as one of the first-ever apps in the Apple Store

Lessons from early failures that paved the way for global impact

The tension between business success and Kingdom purpose

Why true calling isn’t about hierarchy but about being where God wants you to be

The importance of sacrifice, stewardship, and keeping success in an open hand

The vision for the future as YouVersion accelerates toward its second billion downloads

This conversation is both inspiring and practical, reminding us that influence, innovation, and faith can converge to change the world.

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