“People think that when you start a company that it is this immensely risky thing but the upside is so disproportionately higher if you just looked at it from an expected value standpoint. Worst case scenario your company fails and you go to work for a McKinsey or something similar.” — John Arrow

Today, Chad is joined by John Arrow, CEO of Mutual Mobile, an agency that designs and develops breakthrough digital applications for the Fortune 1000. As a freshman at the University of Texas, John joined the aviation community and discovered his passion for flying. It was also within this program that he met four friends who would become the co-founders of Mutual Mobile. 

“One of my passions is flying airplanes where you're forced to multitask. There's no other way to do it. Even if you have the autopilot on, you have to be scanning the instruments or talking to the radio or planning what's ahead. I think you can do things better when you can spread out your attention because it avoids that burnout.”

Starting Mutual Mobile has completely changed his life. John has emerged as one of the most promising young CEOs in the past decade, being named to Forbes list of Top 30 CEOs Under 30. Mutual Mobile was named by Forbes as one of America's most promising companies in 2011 and has since produced award-winning apps for Google, Audi, Cisco, and many more.

On this episode, John discusses how to create a work environment primed for innovation and creativity, how to succeed within the app-building world, and his goals for the future of Mutual Mobile.

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