This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're bringing you an incredible story that truly embodies the spirit of endurance, family, and grit! We're honored to sit down with Michael and Nicholas Leo, a dynamic father-son duo whose journey in ultra running is nothing short of inspiring.

Michael shares his path from various sports to finding his calling in running, while Nicholas, inspired by his dad, started pounding the pavement at a young age. They dive deep into their experiences at the challenging Mid-State Mile, revealing the lessons learned about training, crucial nutrition, and the mental toughness it takes to go beyond what you thought possible.

This episode shines a light on the powerful bond between father and son, forged through miles, shared struggles, and unwavering support. Nicholas, at just 17 years old, reflects on his remarkable victory at the Mid-State Mile, the emotional moments shared with his father as crew chief, and how facing discomfort has shaped his character.

Get ready for a conversation packed with resilience, joy, and the inspiring realization that running is not just about the destination, but the incredible connections and growth you find along the way.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Guests

01:17 Michael Leo's Running Journey

04:00 Nicholas Leo's Early Running Experience

06:28 The Mid-State Mile Experience

11:04 The Bond of Father and Son

11:40 Training for the Mid-State Mile

15:37 Challenges Faced During the Race

20:21 Nutrition Strategies for Endurance Running

25:07 Training Adjustments and Lessons Learned

29:10 Race Day Experiences and Mental Challenges

36:04 Overcoming Adversity During the Race

37:02 The Warrior Spirit of Pete Schreiner

37:59 Mindset and Grit in Endurance Racing

38:53 Surreal Moments and Second Winds

39:46 The Thrill of Competition: Doubts and Determination

40:57 Behind the Scenes: Crew Chief Insights

42:41 The Final Showdown: Two Runners Left

44:20 The Emotional Rollercoaster of Racing

45:52 Strategies for Success: Pacing and Nutrition

47:44 Victory Lap: The Joy of Accomplishment

49:16 Father-Son Bonding: A Special Father's Day

50:30 The Significance of the Quilt

52:04 Inspiring the Next Generation of Runners

52:37 Looking Ahead: Future Races and Goals

54:08 Finding Purpose in Pain: The Why Behind Running

55:22 The Importance of Community in Running

01:03:07 Training for Success: Building a Program

01:04:48 Reflections on the Podcast Journey