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In this episode of "Unschooling Conversations," Heidi Steel is joined by clinical psychologist and author Naomi Fisher to explore the topic of burnout in children, particularly those moving beyond school and exploring unschooling approaches. Together, they discuss:
What burnout looks like in children and how it differs from adult experiences.
Early warning signs, such as loss of curiosity, flatness, and withdrawal.
The factors that contribute to burnout, including individual temperament, life events, and school environment.
The importance of removing pressure and creating a nurturing, low-stress home environment for recovery.
Practical strategies for parents, including relationship repair, being present, and gently reintroducing opportunities for curiosity and engagement.
The non-linear nature of recovery and recognising the signs that things are changing.
The value of community support and sharing experiences with others.
Naomi also shares insights from her new book, "The Teenager’s Guide to Burnout," and both hosts reflect on their personal journeys and the unique opportunities unschooling families have to support healing and growth. The episode offers hope, practical advice, and reassurance that recovery from burnout is possible, with an emphasis on patience, empathy, and trust in the process.
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Dr Naomi Fisher is a clinical psychologist, author and speaker specialising in parenting, mental health issues in children, autism and trauma.
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Connect with Heidi and discover the blog, courses and the Unschooling Village Hub at http://liveplaylearn.org
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Tune in for insight, practical tips, and encouragement.
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In this episode of "Unschooling Conversations," Heidi Steel is joined by clinical psychologist and author Naomi Fisher to explore the topic of burnout in children, particularly those moving beyond school and exploring unschooling approaches. Together, they discuss:
What burnout looks like in children and how it differs from adult experiences.
Early warning signs, such as loss of curiosity, flatness, and withdrawal.
The factors that contribute to burnout, including individual temperament, life events, and school environment.
The importance of removing pressure and creating a nurturing, low-stress home environment for recovery.
Practical strategies for parents, including relationship repair, being present, and gently reintroducing opportunities for curiosity and engagement.
The non-linear nature of recovery and recognising the signs that things are changing.
The value of community support and sharing experiences with others.
Naomi also shares insights from her new book, "The Teenager’s Guide to Burnout," and both hosts reflect on their personal journeys and the unique opportunities unschooling families have to support healing and growth. The episode offers hope, practical advice, and reassurance that recovery from burnout is possible, with an emphasis on patience, empathy, and trust in the process.
Connect with Naomi
Dr Naomi Fisher is a clinical psychologist, author and speaker specialising in parenting, mental health issues in children, autism and trauma.
website
Insta
Substack
Connect with Heidi and discover the blog, courses and the Unschooling Village Hub at http://liveplaylearn.org
Follow on Facebook
Tune in for insight, practical tips, and encouragement.
Thank you for listening to Unschooling Conversations. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a like, and share.

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