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Burnout Expert Tells All with Dr. Jacqueline Kerr


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Our guest today is Dr. Jacqueline Kerr is a behavior scientist and burnout survivor. She is in the top 1% of most cited scientists worldwide and received over $56 million in funding from the National Institutes of Health to research health behavior change solutions for individuals and communities. Dr. Kerr left her position as a public health professor in 2018 and now hosts the podcast 'Overcoming Working Mom Burnout' where she interviews CEOs, researchers, diversity experts, and leadership coaches. Her TEDx talk (How to stop burnout before it starts) explains how burnout is a multi-level problem and provides actionable solutions that we can all use to change the social norms around burnout based on behavior change science.


In today’s episode, we discuss…


  • What the research actually says about engagement and burnout
  • Fascinating data on workplace barriers and societal structural barriers
  • The need to prove ourselves as ambitious mothers
  • How the corporate environment can often out women automatically in the first stage of burnout
  • Workplace stereotypes we are expected to engage
  • When you are in fight or flight mode, it is almost impossible to have the extra energy to challenge your thoughts
  • Checking your tendencies to overwork and overgive
  • Choosing to work for companies that support your personality tendencies
  • Identifying areas where you might be resentful or ruminating
  • Communicating with your family about what drains and depletes you
  • Setting realistic expectations with your family and the women around you
  • Filtering choices through a “mediocre man mindset”
  • The importance of parenting breaks
  • Identifying energy drains at home and at work


For the show notes and all the links mentioned in today’s episode, head to secretsofsupermom.com/128.


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