Danny road tests a new kind of relationship – an always-listening AI pendant that eavesdrops in on your conversations and then texts you so it too can be part of your life story! 22-year-old inventor, Avi Schiffmann, calls it a “living digital being.” Is this the future of companionship, or a step too far? And Katie and Danny discuss OpenAI’s shift to a for-profit business – what it changes for Microsoft, and whether an IPO is now on the cards.

Senior Producer: Priyanka Deladia

Editor: Stephen Titherington

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