Meghan's guest is Spencer Pratt, candidate for Los Angeles mayor. Yes, that Spencer Pratt — the producer-crafted villain from The Hills who later blew a fortune on moldavite crystals and Birkin bags before settling into a quieter life raising a family in Pacific Palisades. That house burned down in the Palisades Fire in January 2025, and what followed was a political awakening that has put him in second place in the June 2 primary.

Meghan sat down with him at his burned lot to talk about the fires, the homelessness crisis, the billions in homeless services funding that a federal audit couldn't account for, animal abuse on Skid Row, and why he thinks an outsider with no political debts is the only person who can fix a city that's been broken for decades.

This version includes a short introduction. For the full ten-minute introduction with additional context, find the Substack version at theunspeakablepodcast.com.