Zoe interviews Virginia Tapscott, a freelance journalist and mother of four from rural New South Wales, Australia. They discuss the concept of care feminism, which emphasizes the value and importance of women's care work, whether it is paid or unpaid. Care feminism is contrasted with dominant feminist rhetoric that sometimes aims to minimize or avoid care work altogether.

Additionally, they discuss Virginia's podcast, My Sister's Secrets, which explores the stories of Virginia and her late sister, Alex. Both were sexually abused by a family member during their infancy. They examine whether this abuse influenced Virginia's perception of men and her desire to have a family.

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