In this conversation, Zoe Booth and Adam Louis-Klein delve into the complexities of antizionism, exploring its ideological roots, the language used to propagate it, and its normalisation in contemporary society. They discuss the formation of the Movement Against Antizionism (MAAZ) and the importance of recognising antizionism as a distinct form of bigotry. The dialogue also addresses the historical context of antizionism, its evolution in academia, and the psychological warfare embedded in its rhetoric. Throughout, practical strategies are offered for countering antizionist claims—emphasising the need for clarity, courage, and a comprehensive understanding of the issue.
Adam Louis-Klein is an anthropologist and PhD candidate at McGill University. His research focuses on Indigenous cosmologies in the Colombian Amazon and comparative forms of peoplehood. He is the founder of the Movement Against Antizionism (MAAZ), which challenges antizionist ideology as a distinct form of anti-Jewish hatred. His writing and advocacy explore the intersection of academic discourse, identity, and political propaganda.
00:00 Introduction to Adam Louis-Klein and MAAZ
04:00 Interview begins: The Birth of MAAZ and Antizionism
09:10 Language and the Inversion of Reality
11:28 The Evolution of Antizionism
14:08 The Role of Academia in Antizionism
16:55 The Historical Context of Antizionism
19:21 Modern Antizionism and Its Global Impact
21:43 Government Responses to Antizionism
24:33 Understanding Antizionism vs. Antisemitism
27:18 The Psychological Mechanisms Behind Antizionism
29:50 The Australian Context of Antizionism
31:56 Personal Reflections on Antizionism and Academia
38:37 Indigeneity and Cultural Identity
42:22 The Complexity of Genocide Narratives
48:13 Understanding Whiteness and Cultural Concerns
52:47 Historical Atrocities and Political Violence
55:45 The Organisation of Antizionist Movements
01:04:58 The Movement Against Antizionism
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