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Today we are joined on the pod by the very gifted songwriter, singer and guitar extraordinaire, Jessica Dobson.
Jessica has played guitar on the road with the likes of Beck, The Shins, and The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, but now puts most of her musical efforts into her band Deep Sea Diver.
In our conversation, We talk about the upcoming Deep Sea Diver release and if being known as a band’s band is a good or bad thing, Jessica shares about working with and befriending her unhoused neighbors, and we talk about both the trials and the triumphs of being married to your drummer.
DEEP SEA DIVER OFFICIAL
DEEP SEA DIVER ON INSTAGRAM
Carry the Fire Podcast Website
Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Today on Carry the Fire Podcast we are joined by Dr. Omid Safi.
Omid is a Professor of Islamic Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He specializes in contemporary Islamic thought and classical Islam, including mystical Persian poetry, especially the poet Rumi, which he explores in his book Radical Love and also now in his online course which we’ll talk about a bit later. I spent a lot of time preparing for this one and then barely asked any of the questions I prepared, which always means it was a good conversation.
We discuss the way that great art is always universal but still should not be severed from its roots and context, Omid shares about how he’s benefited from his engagement with other religious traditions, and we talk about why reading nearly 800 year old poetry can be important not only for nourishing our own souls, but also for bringing about justice and making love real in the world today. This was one of my favorite conversations so far and I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did. Let’s dive in.
DR. OMID SAFI ON ON BEING
ILLUMINATED COURSES
RADICAL LOVE BOOK
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Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Today on the podcast we are joined by none other than the fierce and beautiful and lovely Shadlie Kensrue, my wife. Shadlie is a former Level 1 Trauma ICU Nurse and is currently the school nurse for a large high school.
In our conversation Shadlie talks a bit about the current pandemic and what we can all be doing to get us out of this sooner, she shares somewhat she’s seen and learned in her various nursing roles included her thoughts on how we view death and how we empathize with those different than us, we discuss motherhood from a few different angles, and Shadlie shares a bit of advice for how to deal with being married to someone as difficult as me at times. It was such an honor to get to go deep with this amazing woman, and there are even a few things I learned that I hadn’t known before.
The Nature Fix Book
Jessica Malaty Rivera, MS Instagram
Carry the Fire Podcast Website
Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Today we are joined by Jon Foreman. Jon is the singer of the band Switchfoot, he makes amazing music on his own, and with other friends. He is simultaneously one of the most charismatic frontmen out there and also one of the nicest humans you'll ever meet.
In our conversation, I talked to Jon a bit about what performing has looked like for him historically and the way that it connects with his inner life, we discuss the reasons that Jon sings about death so often, and Jon references the work of an earlier guest of the podcast, James Carse, to explain how he thinks about competition in the arts.
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FEATURED LINKS
Jon Foreman Official
Jon Foreman on Twitter
Switchfoot Official
Carry the Fire Podcast Website
Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Today on the Pod we are joined by David Dark. David is an author, professor, and probably my very favorite person on Twitter, as he pokes and prods curiously, thoughtfully, and earnestly into our assumptions and hypocrisies.
In our conversation, we talk about Marvel and myth, beloved community, robot soft exorcisms, and much more. Including David's idea that “Religion is politics, is what we do, and how we speak in the way that we think about other human beings.”.
David Dark on Twitter
The Possibility of America
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Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Today on the podcast we are joined by Eric Silver. Eric is one of the hosts of my very favorite podcasts, Join the Party. Join the Party is a collaborative storytelling podcast using the framework and mechanics of the popular game, Dungeons & Dragons. Eric the “DM” or Dungeon Master, of the Join the Party Game. We’ll learn more about what that means as we go. Some of you might be thinking that maybe you’ll skip this one and that D&D is not for you. But, if you stick around I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised and intrigued.
Eric and I talk about the magic of collaborative storytelling, we discuss the way that he tries to craft Join the Party to be open and inviting in a variety of ways, and he shares how his Jewish heritage and faith influence his storytelling.
Eric on Twitter
Join the Party Podcast
Multitude Studio
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Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Today on the pod we are joined by Chuck Wendig. Chuck is an author and storyteller in a variety of mediums. He is most well known through his novels, the most recent of which is titled Wanderers and which I read recently and really enjoyed.
In our conversation, we talk about the way that fiction interacts with the good, the true, and the beautiful including the relationship of canon to both fiction and religion, the way that fiction can help us see things that reality has obscured, and the way that the best fiction both gives you an escape while simultaneously bringing you right back to the real issues from a novel perspective, pun intended. Let’s dive in
Chuck Wendig Blog
Chuck Wendig on Twitter
Chuck on Instagram
Carry the Fire Podcast Website
Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Hey everyone! Today on the pod we are joined by William Matthews. William is a recording artist, a host of the popular podcast The Liturgists, and an advocate for social change fighting against racism, voter suppression, climate change, and more.
In our conversation we go deep into the good, true, and beautiful of Star Trek and I try to get William to sell me on why I should be a Trekkie, we discuss philosopher Rene Girard’s theories of mimetic desire and scapegoating, and William explains why certain voices should be excluded from the conversation not because they are conservative or liberal, left or right, but rather because they are bad-faith actors being weaponized against us. Let’s dive in.
William Matthews Official
William on Twitter
William on Instagram
Carry the Fire Podcast Website
Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Today on Carry the Fire we are joined by Thomas Jay Oord. Tom is a philosopher, a theologian, author, and all-around good dude.
In our conversation, Tom explains the ins-and-outs of Open and Relational theology, and he explains why it might be good news if God has a different kind of agency or power than the standard omnipotence many of us have been told is the only game in town.
FEATURED LINKS
Thomas Jay Oord Official
Tom on Twitter
Center for Open & Relational Theology
Carry the Fire Podcast Website
Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
Today we are joined by Moiya McTier. Moiya is an astrophysicist and folklorist with a passion for worldbuilding.
We talk about her work studying exoplanets and galactic dynamics, we discuss why we can trust the scientific process precisely because it makes mistakes and owns them, and Moiya makes some helpful connections and analogies relating global and galactic systems to systems of oppression. Lets’ dive in.
Moiya McTier Official
Moiya on Twitter
Carry the Fire Podcast Website
Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com
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