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Parasocial Relationships: Why Clarity Matters More Than Access

Parasocial relationships are a normal part of modern content — especially in podcasts and online education. In this episode, Shannon breaks down what parasocial relationships actually are, why they form so easily, and where connection can quietly turn into expectation.

This conversation isn’t about blame or call-outs. It’s about clarity. You’ll learn the difference between healthy engagement and unhealthy attachment, why boundaries protect both creators and listeners, and how to use content as a tool rather than a substitute for real support.

Whether you’re a listener, a creator, or both, this episode offers a grounded perspective on connection, trust, and responsible boundaries in a digital world.

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Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

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