This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

Legacy clients aren’t bad clients — but avoiding upgrades quietly destroys your margins, your team, and your leadership.
In this solo episode, Shannon Miller breaks down how to raise standards with long-time clients without burning down your business, why legacy clients are frozen in time, and how to upgrade pricing and policies without guilt or chaos

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Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

Undercharging isn’t a pricing problem—it’s a systems and positioning problem. Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco break down why being booked solid doesn’t mean profitable, and what it really takes to charge sustainably in a cleaning business.

Full show notes see the website: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com/

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

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Erica Paynter is the brains behind My Virtual Bookkeeper, a bookkeeping firm for cleaning companies, and the creator of Clean Co. Cash Flow Academy and the Clean Co. Collective. She’s on a mission to help cleaning business owners make sense of their numbers without boring them to tears! Erica’s all about turning messy books into profit-packed powerhouses.

 [email protected] 

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

Red flag clients are not “part of the journey.” They are liabilities. In this episode, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco call out the pricing games, boundary pushing, micromanaging, and emotional chaos that drain cleaning businesses dry. We break down how to spot these clients early, why taking them on is a CEO mistake, and exactly when to reset, contain, or fire them — without guilt and without apology.

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r

Erica Paynter is the brains behind My Virtual Bookkeeper, a bookkeeping firm for cleaning companies, and the creator of Clean Co. Cash Flow Academy and the Clean Co. Collective. She’s on a mission to help cleaning business owners make sense of their numbers without boring them to tears! Erica’s all about turning messy books into profit-packed powerhouses.

 [email protected] 

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

Some clients don’t just drain your time — they drain your profit, your team, and your peace. In this episode, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco talk about what a client reset really is, how to set clear boundaries, and how to stop working for the wrong people without burning bridges or losing income.

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

February isn’t burnout—it’s feedback. In this Cleaning Business Life episode, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco explain why cleaning business owners feel overwhelmed in February and how to reset systems, boundaries, and decision fatigue before burnout hits.

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

Here are short show notes you can paste (with the CleanCon website included):

This is a time-sensitive bonus episode! Shannon and Jamie break down what CleanCon 2026 is, who it’s for, and how to decide if attending a conference fits your season—especially when you’re balancing kids, business, and real life. They also share the “juicy bits” of events (hint: it’s the hallway conversations), plus a big announcement: Jamie is preparing for a soft launch of Above All Naturals, a cleaner-created product line built from real-world testing and feedback.

Links Mentioned:

• CleanCon: https://mycleancon.com
• Above All Naturals (coming soon — link in show notes when live)

Call to Action:
If this episode helped you, share it with one cleaning business owner who needs it.

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

Time is the true currency—and how you spend it reveals what you value. In this episode, Shannon reflects on leadership, boundaries, pricing, and the importance of showing up with intention. She also shares gratitude for the community that has allowed her and Jamie to grow publicly and commit to showing up twice a week in 2026.

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

Parasocial Relationships: Why Clarity Matters More Than Access

Parasocial relationships are a normal part of modern content — especially in podcasts and online education. In this episode, Shannon breaks down what parasocial relationships actually are, why they form so easily, and where connection can quietly turn into expectation.

This conversation isn’t about blame or call-outs. It’s about clarity. You’ll learn the difference between healthy engagement and unhealthy attachment, why boundaries protect both creators and listeners, and how to use content as a tool rather than a substitute for real support.

Whether you’re a listener, a creator, or both, this episode offers a grounded perspective on connection, trust, and responsible boundaries in a digital world.

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r

Erica Paynter is the brains behind My Virtual Bookkeeper, a bookkeeping firm for cleaning companies, and the creator of Clean Co. Cash Flow Academy and the Clean Co. Collective. She’s on a mission to help cleaning business owners make sense of their numbers without boring them to tears! Erica’s all about turning messy books into profit-packed powerhouses.

 [email protected] 

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

In this final episode of the Five Phases of the Entrepreneur series, we explore Phase 5: The Visionary CEO. This is the stage where business owners move beyond day-to-day execution and begin building assets, systems, and long-term impact. We talk about shifting from operator to architect, thinking in years instead of weeks, and designing a business that aligns with your values instead of constant urgency. Phase 5 isn’t about scaling for applause — it’s about intention, sustainability, and leadership maturity. If you’re ready to build something that lasts beyond you, this episode will help clarify what comes next.

Full Show Notes check KFU 

Link to author page, Shannon Lee Ann Miller

https://www.amazon.com/author/shannonleeannmiller

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r

Erica Paynter is the brains behind My Virtual Bookkeeper, a bookkeeping firm for cleaning companies, and the creator of Clean Co. Cash Flow Academy and the Clean Co. Collective. She’s on a mission to help cleaning business owners make sense of their numbers without boring them to tears! Erica’s all about turning messy books into profit-packed powerhouses.

 [email protected] 

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie

This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.

In this episode, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco break down why chaos in your business isn’t a personal failure — it’s a leadership signal. They discuss the difference between growth chaos and self-created chaos, how underpricing and unclear scope create daily fires, and why structure, consistency, and enforcement are the real solutions to long-term stress.

https://www.longsproducts.com/

fuchsia Huck Cloths

https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r

Support the show

Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.

Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com

Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie