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This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.
Red flag clients are not “part of the journey.” They are liabilities. In this episode, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco call out the pricing games, boundary pushing, micromanaging, and emotional chaos that drain cleaning businesses dry. We break down how to spot these clients early, why taking them on is a CEO mistake, and exactly when to reset, contain, or fire them — without guilt and without apology.
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Erica Paynter is the brains behind My Virtual Bookkeeper, a bookkeeping firm for cleaning companies, and the creator of Clean Co. Cash Flow Academy and the Clean Co. Collective. She’s on a mission to help cleaning business owners make sense of their numbers without boring them to tears! Erica’s all about turning messy books into profit-packed powerhouses.
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Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.
Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.
🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com
Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.
— Shannon & Jamie
By Shannon Miller & Jamie Runco4.8
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This podcast is powered by Klean Freaks University.com — where real cleaners build real empires. From mop buckets to million-dollar systems, we teach you how to clean smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster.
Red flag clients are not “part of the journey.” They are liabilities. In this episode, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco call out the pricing games, boundary pushing, micromanaging, and emotional chaos that drain cleaning businesses dry. We break down how to spot these clients early, why taking them on is a CEO mistake, and exactly when to reset, contain, or fire them — without guilt and without apology.
https://www.longsproducts.com/
fuchsia Huck Cloths
https://b60r0g-vq.myshopify.com/products/pink-huck-towels-doz?_pos=1&_sid=0f160cb51&_ss=r
Erica Paynter is the brains behind My Virtual Bookkeeper, a bookkeeping firm for cleaning companies, and the creator of Clean Co. Cash Flow Academy and the Clean Co. Collective. She’s on a mission to help cleaning business owners make sense of their numbers without boring them to tears! Erica’s all about turning messy books into profit-packed powerhouses.
Support the show
Thanks for tuning in to Cleaning Business Life — the podcast for cleaning business owners who want to build a profitable, sustainable company without burning out.
Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.
🎧 New episodes 2x weekly
📚 Resources, show notes, and programs: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com
Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.
— Shannon & Jamie

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