We all love having people who believe in us. Champions encourage us, remind us who we are, and push us toward the rooms we’re afraid to enter.

But if encouragement is the only voice in your life, you can stop growing.

In this episode, Ryan unpacks the surprising history behind the phrase “devil’s advocate” and why every person needs both a Champion and a Challenger. One builds you up. The other stress tests you. One says, “Go.” The other says, “Not yet.” And both are necessary if you want to become who you’re called to be.

Because the greatest ideas don’t just survive applause. They survive scrutiny.