Kurt Campbell is the Deputy Assistant to the President and the White House Coordinator for Indo-Pacific Affairs. ChinaTalk recently joined Campbell in Washington to discuss US-China relations and mark the podcast’s 300th episode.

We discuss:

Outtro music: Brahms: Sonata in E flat major for Viola and Piano, Op. 120, No. 2 I. Allegro amabile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrC4rx5VrA

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James Wang, partner at Creative Ventures, joins to discuss:

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James writes at https://weightythoughts.com/ and tweets at @AJamesWang

Outtro Music: the legendary Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell

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Noah Smith of https://www.noahpinion.blog/ and Matt Klein of https://theovershoot.co/ join ChinaTalk to discuss:

We get into:

This was a fun one, I hope you enjoy!

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Huawei’s breakthrough Kirin 9000s: what is it, why is it a big deal, and what if anything should the US do about it? Joining me, I have on two fantastic semiconductor analysis, Doug O'Laughlin of Fabricated Knowledge and Dylan Patel of SemiAnalysis. We get into:

Here's my piece on the topic: https://www.chinatalk.media/p/huaweis-breakthrough-the-strategic

And here's Dylan's: https://www.semianalysis.com/p/china-ai-and-semiconductors-rise

Outtro music: 潮州土狗 - 50元的檳榔 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjl2qabfSNs

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This episode of China Talk explores the past, present, and future of Congress with AEI's Philip Wallach. We get into:

Outtro music: Nixon's 1972 campaign song

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How does the public, corporations, academia and civil society end up directly influencing some of China's most important regulations? What's the trajectory of China's approach to AI?

Matt Sheehan of CIEP returns to discuss the AI regulatory policy process in China!

Matt's paper: https://carnegieendowment.org/2023/07/10/china-s-ai-regulations-and-how-they-get-made-pub-90117

Outtro music: 曾涵江Cup ：天选 CHOSEN ONE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB607_3sDYQ

Image: I took an image from Dunhuang and prompted it with "artificial intelligence"

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Culture month continues with some traditional Chinese painting coverage!

What was it like to paint in premodern China? How did a husband-wife and master-mentee team up to produce some remarkable art? Why is it okay to say Chinese art is "good" or "bad" while those who critique western art have so much heartburn over saying their opinion?

Cohosting is Joseph Scheier-Dolberg, Chinese paintings curator at the MET.

This episode is better experienced on YouTube. Check out the video on ChinaTalk's YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/Rxr6xOj29A8

Here's the link to the exhibit: https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/learning-to-paint/exhibition-objects

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Emily Benson (CSIS) and Martin Chorzempa (PIIE) come on to discuss the new executive order and Treasury's ANRPM (advanced notice of proposed rulemaking) on novel outbound investment screening rules on AI, quantum and semis.

Treasury document: https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/206/Treasury-ANPRM.pdf

Outtro music: 水碾河南三街 LSGCsikoriot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wzz1Deafh8

Midjourney: used this 18th century Japanese woodprint and prompted it with "quantum semiconductor"

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/55371

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Should democracies band together to protect themselves from Chinese economic coercion? What can deterrence theory teach us about geoeconomic strategy?

To discuss these questions, I brought on Matt Goodman and Matt Reynolds of CSIS along with Matt Klein of The Overshoot and David Talbot of the Milken Institute.

We discuss:

–Why China uses economic coercion, especially against smaller states.

–How democracies might join together to deter and respond to this aggression.

–Why reslience beats retaliation when it comes to economic conflict.

Outro music: "(You're The) Devil in Disguise," Elvis Presley.

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This August, ChinaTalk is going to take a bit of a break from our usual routine of tech and politics coverage to spend some time with Chinese culture! Starting us off is Jake Newby of the Concrete Avalanche substack who will be taking us through a radio hour of some of the most interesting independent music coming out of China.

Here's the playlist:

Intro music: Voision Xi - 'Too Late to Complain' from Five Loops in Her Way. More on that EP here; listen to Voision's jazz record Lost For Words here.

1. Voision Xi - 'Catch the Train' from Eating Music's Running With Friends. More on that compilation here.

2. Vii M - 'Man O' War (Cocoonics remix)' from The Other Side of Sublunary (The Remixes). More on Vii M and Sublunary here.

3. Lygort Trio - '藏身之处' from Lygort Trio. More on them here.

4. Hualun - 'Cities of the Red Night' from Tempus. More on Tempus here.

5. Zhou Shijue - '幸福来的这么自然‘ from 应运而生. More on his record with J-Fever and Eddie Beatz here.

6. 33EMYBW - 'The Unheard Southern Mountains' from Long May the Water Flow. More on that compilation here.

7. Li Daiguo - '小精灵幼儿园放学' from 吥哔呢未来音:奇幻童年.

8. Zhaoze - 'Stand in Wind' from No Answer Blowin' in the Wind. More on that album here.

9. Ὁπλίτης - 'Ὁ τῶν τραυμάτων ἄγγελος' from Τρωθησομένη. More on Hoplites here.

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