Citizen Detective

Episode 4 Catrina Mowrey

On June 25th, 1985 police in Dallas, Texas received a phone call from a concerned citizen who reported an abandoned car in an alley with a foul smell coming from it; a car that had been in the same spot for days. When police investigated and opened the trunk, they found a dead woman inside the trunk. She was nude and wrapped in a sheet. The victim was soon identified as 24 year-old Catherine Mowrey, who went by Catrina. Much of Catrina's life in Dallas was a msytery to her family back home in Kansas. When Catrina's body was found, she was supposed to be back in Kansas visiting her family. The car was traced to Catrina's boyfriend who claimed to have no knowledge or involvement in Catrina's death. According to him, Catrina had driven his car back to Kansas to see her family. Police theorized that Catrina had taken her own life. They then shifted to the theory that Catrina had died of a drug overdose, but when no drugs were found in Catrina's system, they one again changed direction dismissing the death as 'undetermined' and essentially that's where investigation into Catrina's death seemed to stall. Due to decomposition, the medical examiner left the official cause of death as 'undetermined'. For years, Catrina's family fought an uphill battle to find out the truth behind Catrina's death; a battle that they still are fighting today.

In this episode, we are joined by Catrina's niece, Catrina Marshall, as well as death investigator Landen Wilson, and Jared Bradley of MVAC DNA extraction services.

If you have information about the death of Catrina Mowrey, please report it to the Homicide Unit of the Dallas Police Department at 214-671-3661 or its General Investigations line at 214-671-3503. Tips can also be sent to Catrina Marshall on Twitter at @catrinamarsh91

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Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe

In episode 3 of The Scrum, you'll hear more from our guests Tonee Lawrence and Doug McGregor as we continue discussing the possibilities around the disappearance of Dale Williams.


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Episode 3 Dale Williams

42 Year-Old husband, and Father Dale Williams was a well-liked, and well-known around the town of Nucla, Colorado; a town of less than 1,000 people. Dale, the owner of a body shop, had the reputation as someone who would help anyone in need. After Dale and his wife helped a friend move away from her abusive husband, Dale found that his shop was broken into, and photos of Dale and this couple were found torn up on the floor next to some bullets. Dale's gun had also been stolen, and later turned up when it was placed in the drop slot at his wife's video store. Was this an ominous warning of some kind? On May 27, 1999 following this incident, Dale received a mysterious phone call at his shop from someone asking for help with car trouble they supposedly had. An ear witness caught part of the conversation, and got the impression the call came from a woman. Dale ventured out to help the person, and along the way stopped to talk to a friend of his. This friend got the impression that Dale was worried somehow about heading out to help the motorist in need, and sensed that he had really stopped by to see if her husband was around to perhaps go with him. Unfortuately, he wasn't and Dale drove off to help the motorist in trouble. It was the last time he was ever seen. Dale vanished along with his truck; a white 1994 Ford F250 pickup. When Dale's didn't come home, his wife knew something was wrong. A search for Dale and his truck came up empty. When Dale's wife put missing persons flyers up, she was shocked to find out someone was taking them down- someone they knew. It wasn't until weeks later that someone fishing at an area swimming hol,e known only to locals, discovered Dale's truck submerged in 13 feet of water. Police recovered it, but there was no sign of Dale. In the weeks, months, and years after the discovery of Dale's truck, his tools began to turn up on the side of the road not far from where his truck was found. Sadly, Dale never turned up, and was declared legally dead, suspected to be a victim of a homicide.
Over the years, rumors have swirled in the small town of Nucla about what happened to Dale Williams, but as of now, there is no clear answer.

Dale's Daughter Tonee Lawrence & Profiler Doug McGregor are the guests in this episode. They help us get a sense both of Dale's life, and the area he went missing in.
If you have information about Dale’s case, please call the Colorado Bureau of investigation at 970-248-7500

For more information about the case visit: http://whereisdalewilliams.net/
and on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/missingdalewilliams/

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Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe

The Scrum Episode 2 Free Preview

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In episode 2 of The Scrum, you'll hear more from our guests Elaine Runyan, and Private Investigator Jason Jensen as we continue the heartbreaking discussion of the abduction and murder of Rachael Runyan.



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Episode 2 Rachael Runyan

In this episode, the panel examines the heartbreaking August, 1982 abduction and murder of 3 year-old Rachael Runyan in Sunset, Utah. Rachael was playing at a park alongside her brothers, just feet away from her home. Their mom Elaine, watched from the window as she prepared a meal for the family. Although Elaine was nervous about letting the kids out to play, she wanted them to have fun, and they'd only be outside for a short while until it was time to come in. But in the blink of an eye, tragedy struck. A stranger approached the 3 young siblings and asked them if they wanted ice cream from Bobco's, a local store. Rachael's brother warned her not to follow the man, but she took a few steps toward him and within seconds, the man snatched Rachael up and was gone. Rachael's brothers raced inside to tell Elaine, and she called police who were at her home in less than 5 minutes. Police quickly took action and set up a county wide roadblock, but they did not find Rachael of her abductor. Police worked closely with Rachael's brother to gather details of what he witnessed, and despite his young age, he gave police a very detailed description of the man and his car. The suspect had dark skin and was possibly Black, or Hispanic. He was 5'8" to 6'0" tall, with a medium build, and a black mustache, and between twenty-five and thirty-five years old. His car was described as blue midsize car with wood grain stripes on the side- possibly a Ford Pinto Squire Station-Wagon, or similar vehicle.
Sunset Utah had a heavily Caucasian population, and despite the very distinct description of a suspect who was possibly Black or Hispanic, along with a very unique car, no suspect was identified.

Almost a month later, Rachael's naked body was found hog-tied in a creek off a dirt road in Morgan County, twenty miles from the park where she had been abducted. Due to decomposition, Rachael's cause of death was unclear, and it could not be determined if she was sexually assaulted. Rachael's case shocked the Sunset community, and they only became more troubled when it came to light that Rachael's murder may have been connected to the occult or a snuff film.

40 years later, there have been no arrests, and Rachael's case is still unsolved. Rachael's mom Elaine, as well as Private Cold Case Investigator Jason Jensen are guests in this episode. They discuss this tragic case in details from their perspective and share details of a promising suspect who they hope may be proven to be Rachael's killer.

Justice for Rachael Runyan Facebook page-
https://www.facebook.com/Justice-for-Rachael-Runyan-950052995036162

Rachael Runyan Private Investigation Facebook page set up by Jason Jensen-
https://www.facebook.com/RachaelRunyanPrivateInvestigation

If you, or anyone you know, has information about this case, please contact
one of the following resources:

Jason Jensen can be reached at [email protected] and
801-759-2248.

Sunset Police Chief Ken Eborn can be contacted at 801-825-1620.

Utah’s Bureau of Criminal Investigation urges people with tips to call their
cold case tip hotline at 833-DPS-SAFE, or 833-377-7233

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Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe

The Scrum Episode 1 Free Preview

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In episode 1 of The Scrum, you'll hear more from our guests Detective Cloyd Steiger, and Landen Wilson as we continue to unravel the clues in the murders of Russell and Shirley Dermond.


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Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
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Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe

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Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe

Show Finale and Announcement

John Lordan, Mike Morford, and Gray Hughes would like to take this opportunity to announce that the 3 men and a Mystery Podcast is ending. We are very thankful to all of our listeners who have supported us through 3 seasons of the show. Thank you!

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A new podcast will be soon dropping into this feed ; one that will call on Citizen Detectives out there to help in sleuthing some baffling unsolved cases.

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