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Episode 32 Barbara Johnson-Willard Part 3

In this episode, we wrap up our coverage of the June, 1996 disappearance of Barbara Johnson-Willard in Jay, Oklahoma, We discuss additional suspects, explore some of the many rumors in her case, and tie up loose ends.

If you have any information about the case of Barbara Johnson-Willard, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531

You can reach Sheila Stogsdill with tips via email @[email protected] or phone at (918)-791-1962


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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

Episode 31 Barbara Johnson-Willard Part 2

In this episode, the team continues diving into the June, 1996 disappearance of Barbara Johnson-Willard in Jay, Oklahoma, A man she was connected to named John Lee Weeks was convicted of several violent sex attacks, and physical evidence found in Barbara's car linked to him, yet somehow, he has never been prosecuted for involvement in Barbara's disappearance and presumed murder. The team explore some of the violent history of rapes that Weeks was convicted of.

If you have any information about the case of Barbara Johnson-Willard, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531

You can reach Sheila Stogsdill with tips via email @[email protected] or phone at (918)-791-1962


If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts to help solve some of these Delaware County cases, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme here

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Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

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Episode 30 Barbara Johnson-Willard

The team continues to work alongside Delaware County, Oklahoma officials tacking some of their unsolved and cold cases. In this episode, the panel dives into the case of 29 year old Barbara Johnson-Willard who went missing from Jay, Oklahoma on June 17, 1996 after a late night out watching a movie. Ten days after she was last seen, her red Mercury Cougar was found in a ravine near Colcord in southern Delaware County. Someone had attempted to set it on fire. Although Barbara was nowhere to be found, investigators discovered evidence of decaying flesh in the trunk of the car. Barbara was never seen again. It's not clear whether Barbara ever made it to her home the night she vanished, but there was no sign of a struggle or forced entry there. However, police did discover that Barbara's bedding from her bed was missing. A look into Barbara's background linked her to a man in prison named John Lee Weeks, a serial rapist. Evidence including DNA and prints recovered from Barbara's car links Weeks to it, but to date, he hasn't been charged in Barbara's case.

If you have any information about the case of Barbara Johnson-Willard, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531

You can reach Sheila Stogsdill with tips via email @[email protected] or phone at (918)-791-1962


If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts to help solve some of these Delaware County cases, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme here

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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

Episode 29 Danny Oakley and Doris Harris Part 2; The Timeline

In this episode, we continue searching for clues in the February, 1996 murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris in Afton, Oklahoma. The team dives into the timeline of the murder and looks closer at the potential suspects and evidence. Once again, the team is joined by Stephanie Bishop; prosecutor and director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit.

If you have any information about the murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531

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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

Episode 28 Danny Oakley and Doris Harris

We kick off our partnership with Delaware County, Oklahoma in examining some of their cold & unsolved cases, with the February 1996 murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris.

On the morning of February 21st, 1996,firefighters responded to a housefire in Afton, Oklahoma. Inside one of the bedrooms responders found the bodies of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris. Both victims had been shot once in the head.

Investigators spoke to many witnesses who reported that Danny was in fear of being arrested or killed in the days before his death. Danny was reported to be a major drug dealer in the area. One theory was that the couple was killed because of drug money owed to a supplier. Another theory was that they were murdered because of a feud between Danny and a different man.

The day after the killings, a man was found passed out behind the wheel of one of the victim’s vehicles eighteen miles away. The man was arrested on other charges and questioned about the murders. Questioning led police to another man who reportedly spent the day before with the victims. As each witness told their tale, police quickly realized they had a long list of potential suspects in the case, yet to date, the case remains unsolved, and the families of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris are still awaiting justice.

Out guests in this episode include Stephanie Bishop; prosecutor and director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit, and Journalist Sheila Stogsdill who has covered this case extensively.

If you have any information about the murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531

You can reach Sheila Stogsdill with tips via email @[email protected] or phone at (918)-791-1962

In the next episode of Citizen Detective, we will wrap up our coverage of the Oakley/Harris case.

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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

Episode 27 Delaware County Case Previews

Authorities in Delaware County,Oklahoma have asked for the team's help in bringing attention to several unsolved and cold cases in their jurisdiction. We have agreed to help, but it's important to narrow down which cases have the most potential to be solved, so in this episode, we are joined by Stephanie Bishop, Director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit and prosecutor for the Cherokee Nation in Delaware County. She runs through the cases with us to see which ones we will tackle in more depth in upcoming episodes of the show. Our goal is to help raise funds to work some of these cases to the fullest extent that they can be worked, and to bring attention to ALL of the unsolved cases that Delaware County has on the books.

If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme here

If you have any information about any of the following cases, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531


Johnnie Halbert Ball (male 60) missing from Kansas, Oklahoma since September 1988. Declared dead in 1996.

Georgie/Georgia Cannaday (female 48) was murdered in her home in Jay, Oklahoma in 1973.

Dustin Ray Carver, (male 20) missing from Kansas, Oklahoma since March 2014.

Aubrey Dameron, (transgender female 25) missing from Grove, Oklahoma since March 2019.

Johnny Lee Eller, (male 34) was found dead of a gunshot wound while on vacation at Red 11 Port Resort in Grove, Oklahoma.

Misty Dawn Faulkner, (female, 29) missing since January 2011 from Eucha, Oklahoma.

Doris M. Harris and Dan "Danny" Oakley, (Female, 40, male, 37) were found shot to death in Oakley's mobile home near Afton, Oklahoma in February 1996.

Barbara Johnson-Willard, (female, 29) missing from Colcord, Oklahoma since June 1996.

Timur Mardeyev, (male, 27) Missing from Grove, Oklahoma since November 2011.

Phillip Porter, (male, 56) was found dead in his home with his throat cut in January 2012. Ruled a suicide.

Brett Adam Scheele, (male, 37) was found dead in a woodsy area in Colcord, Oklahoma in December 2021.

Peggy Sweeten, (female, 52) missing from her home in Grove, Oklahoma since January 1988.

Christopher Teel, (male, 32) was last seen on January 2, 2017, in Jay, Oklahoma. Remains found in February 2023.

Tyson Wright, (male, 49) was found dead in burned vehicle in the Zena area in January 2021.


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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

Episode 26 Mr. Cruel

In the late 1980s and early 1990's, a serial predator targeted young girls in the Melbourne, Australia area. He would enter homes with a weapon subduing family members while sexually assaulting or abducting young female victims. Often, he wore a balaclava to disguise his face. Eventually, at least one one of his attacks and abductions resulted in murder. Despite police a lot of clues to work with, much of them provided by Mr Cruel's brave young victims, the case remains unsolved to this day.
The Citizen Detective team discusses the various suspects in this case, and whether there may be other victims. They also discuss how modern technology and DNA Science, may be able to help ID this predator once and for all. Geoprofiler Douglas MacGregor, who has heavily researched this case and has been a guest on the show before, is back to lend his expertise to the discussion.

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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

Episode 25 The West Memphis Three

In this episode, the team is joined by Bob Ruff of the Truth and Justice Podcast to explore one of the biggest unsolved cases in the true crime world; The West Memphis Three.

On May 5, 1993, Eight year olds Christopher Byers, Michael Moore, and Stevie Branch went out on their bikes in West Memphis, Arkansas, and didn't come home. A search led to the discovery of their bodies in a creek area known as Robin Hood Hills. All 3 had been murdered; the victims of blunt force trauma, and drowning. They were nude, and bound, and it appeared to investigators that at least one of them had been mutilated. In an era of 'Satanic Panic', police quickly focused their attention on 3 local young men, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. They apparently were suspected because of their goth like appearance, and because they believed that that at least one of them, Damien Echols, was a Satanist. With no physical evidence connecting any of the 3 men to the crimes, it was a false confession, and lying witnesses that led to them being convicted for the murders. The 3 men served 18 years in prison before being released after the trio signed Alford Pleas in which they maintained their innocence but acknowledged that prosecutors have evidence to convict them. As part of a plea deal, they were given time served as their sentences.
Now that the 3 are out of prison, they maintain their innocence, and want their names cleared once and for all, and for the real killer to be brought to justice. They have pushed to have physical evidence in the case tested for DNA that might clear them, but the state has refused to allow that to happen.

30 years later, the case remains at a stand still. Did the police arrest the right men, or did the real killer get away with the brutal murders of 3 little boys?

In this episode, the team sifts thru the details and evidence in the case, to figure out what happened, and who might be responsible. Bob Ruff worked on the documentary The Forgotten West Memphis Three that focuses on this case, and he shared his expertise and insights with the team.

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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

Episode 24 Lizzie Borden

On August 4th, 1892, a shocking and brutal double murder took place in Fall River, Massachusetts, and became one of America's most infamous and discussed cases.

Andrew Borden, a wealthy businessman, and his wife Abby were found hacked to death in their home. They had been killed with an axe. Word of the bloody crime scene and shocking crime quickly got out to area residents who wondered if a madman was living amongst them. But suspicion quickly fell on one of Andrew's own Daughters, Lizzie. At times, her story from that day changed, and witnesses observed her doing suspicious things. She was eventually tried for the murder of her father and stepmother, but acquitted. No other arrests in the case were ever made.

Did Lizzie get away with murder, or might there be more than meets the eye? Over a century later, unanswered questions remain, and the case continues to captivate people.

In this episode, the team dives into this legendary case in an effort to see if there is any way to solve this case once and for all.

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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective