Episode 45 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 1

For just over a one year period between February 1976 and March 1977, four children were abducted and murdered in Oakland County, Michigan. Although two of the victims were boys, and two were girls, and despite clear evidence of rape and binding on the male victims, police came to believe that one killer, or a set of killers was responsible for each abduction and murder. In each case, the victims were held for extended periods of time, fed, and cleaned. Each was re-dressed prior to being disposed of. Fear struck the residents across that area, and most parents were afraid to let their kids go outside alone. Just as suddenly as the murders started, they came to an end. A task force was put together to hunt down the killer or killers. Along the way, they looked into several suspects and local sex offenders of children. They also fielded many tips including one of them that led police to search almost every AMC Gremlin withing sight along with their drivers. In the end, the case went unsolved and remains so to this day. The good news is, there appears to be clues to work with, and physical evidence that may one day solve this case.

In part 1 of our investigation into the Oakland County Child Murders, we explore each attack and examine the known clues. We also explore where the victims were abducted from, and where their bodies were dumped, and we are aided by Geographic Profiler Doug MacGregor to see if we can find any clues in the killer's movements. 

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Episode 44 Ladies of the Lake

Between 1994 and 1997, a serial killer preyed on sex workers in the Parkdale neighborhood of Toronto, Onatario in Canada. The bodies of 3 women were found in or on the shore of Lake Ontario. The crime scenes were nearly identical. Each victim was strangled and violated,then drowned. Other elements of the crime scenes mirrored each other as well,demonstrating a clear signature with each crime.A potential suspect was developed, but for reasons that aren't fully understood, a strong enough case couldn't be made against him and the case remains unsolved. Who killed the Ladies of the Lake? In this episode, the team discusses what potential clues and evidence might finally answer this question.

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Episode 42 The Tylenol Murders

In the Fall of 1982, seven people in the Chicago area fell ill and died after taking over the counter Tylenol that was purchased at various locations across the city. It soon became clear that all seven had died as the result of cyanide poisoning, and city officials working with Tylenol manufacturers raced against time to get the product off of store shelves; sending the public into full fledged panic. The murders were deemed to be the result of product tampering, ushering in new methods of safety sealing the medication; methods which still exist to this day. The authorities didn't have much to work with and sought to ID one bearded man who was captured on grainy store surveillance, but he never came forward, and the murders were never solved. In this episode, the team discusses the clues, possible motives, and a strong potential suspect, as well as copycat crimes that were inspired by the Tylenol murders.

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Episode 40 The Monster of Florence

In this episode, the team explores Italy's most infamous unsolved murder series by a killer dubbed 'The Monster of Florence'

For a decade from the mid 1970s until the mid 1980's, the Monster of Florence stalked unsuspecting couples on secluded lover's lane areas, and was responsible for at least 14 murders in the Florence countryside. The attacks were brutal, sadistic, and sexual in nature. Despite a few tantalizing clues; including possible eyewitnesses, and a letter mailed to police which included the flesh of one of his victims, this diabolical killer was never caught. In this episode, the team discusses the known victims, as well as other potential cases he may be linked to, and analyzes potential suspects.

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Episode 39 The Black Dahlia; Rosenda Mondragon

In our continuing coverage of the Black Dahlia murder, we look closely at the case of 20 year old Rosenda Mondragon to see if her murder may be connected to the Black Dahlia murder, Rosenda's nude and possibly mutilated body was found in Los Angeles in July, 1947. She had been strangled with a silk stocking. There were clues to work with along with eyewitnesses that provided information to police, but the case went cold, and to this day, it's not clear if her death is connected to the Black Dahlia murder.

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Episode 38 'The Black Dahlia' Elizabeth Short Part 3

In our final episode of 2023, we continue our exploration of the murder of of 'The Black Dahlia'; Elizabeth Smart. In this chapter, we look at other cases that may be connected to Elizabeth's murder, and consider possible suspects.

Happy Holidays from the Citizen Detective team! We will return in January, 2024 with an all new episode.

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Episode 37 'The Black Dahlia' Elizabeth Short Part 2

In this episode, we continue our deep dive into the case of Elizabeth Short,AKA 'The Black Dahlia' whose 1947 murder shocked LA residents. We take a closer look at both her final days, and the people that interacted with her, and we also begin to talk about some suspects.

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Episode 36 'The Black Dahlia' Elizabeth Short Part 1

In January, 1947, the body of a dead woman was found in a lot in the Leimert Park section of Los Angeles, California. But this wasn't a case of a simple body dumping, the unidentified woman, who would become known as 'The Black Dahlia' had been bisected at the waist, and her body mutilated. Her mouth had been sliced to resemble a ghoulish smile, and she was covered in cigar burns. Examination of her body by the ME would reveal more disturbing details of the torture she endured finally culminating in her death. Eventually, the Black Dhalia was identified as 22 year-old Elizabeth Short, a down on her luck transplant from the East Coast. Elizabeth's murder shocked residents of Los Angeles, and quickly made national headlines. Police were pressured to find the killer fearing that he may strike again. Soon, taunting letters possibly, from the killer, were received. These only deepened the mystery and put more pressure on police. But with no clear suspects, the case began to cool. Over the decades since Short was murdered, theories abound as to who was responsible for her grueseome murder. Although police had potential suspects, the case officially remains unsolved to this day. Some theories have linked Elizabeth's murder to other similar murders.
In part 1 of our deep dive into the murder of Elizabeth Short, the team introduces the case to listeners, and takes a closer look at some of the clues in an effort to see if we can solve one of the most infamous, and shocking unsolved American mysteries.

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Episode 35 Halloween Hangout

In this episode, the group takes a break from true crime, and in honor of our Halloween night recording, dress up in costumes to swap creepy tales, and share strange personal experiences.

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Episode 34 Tyson Wright

On January 29th, 2021, firefighters in the Zena, Oklahoma County area responded to the report of a burning car. When they finally put out the flames, they found 49 year old Tyson Wright dead inside. The fire was determined to be a case of arson, and Wright didn't die as a result of the fire, he had been shot to death. Despite theories and rumors about who murdered Tyson Wright and why, his murder remains a mystery.

If you have any information about the case of Tyson Wright, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531

You can reach Sheila Stogsdill with tips via email @[email protected] or phone at (918)-791-1962

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