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In this episode, Janelle Wood from The Black Mother's Forum and Erma Johnson--mother of Dion Johnson--sit down with me to discuss a number of things. Erma shares stories of Dion growing up and describes the man that he became. She also speaks on how the justice system took her son from her and then failed her and her family. Janelle shares her ideas on dismantling the school-to-prison pipeline as well as anti-Blackness that is prevalent in the education system.

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