#### Welcome to Season 3, friends! We’re so hyped to get back into the game with Jolie Kerr, a podcaster, writer, and _New York Times_ bestselling author who’s here to help us all be a little less gross.

Jolie is best known as the expert at “Ask A Clean Person,” where she dishes up advice on cleaning basically anything—and we mean _anything_. She’s also the _dirtiest_ clean person we’ve ever met—like, who else is going to get tell you about the best way to wash your sex toys and clean cum stains off the couch?

We ask Jolie about becoming a cleaning expert, turning her part-time column into a media empire, and navigating the politics and gendered expectations around who cleans what. Plus, she gives us great advice on how we can all be just a little bit less gross.

> In my experience, men have found it very empowering to read my columns — to know that they’re geared towards them. They are written for a male audience and they’re not condescending. They’re funny. They’re oftentimes raunchy. I always say, you know, “Clean person. Dirty mind.”

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> [Jolie Kerr](https://twitter.com/joliekerr), “Ask A Clean Person” creator and NYT bestselling author

### Links on links on links:

- The Ask a Clean Person empire: the [AACP Lifehacker column](https://lifehacker.com/tag/ask-a-clean-person), Jolie’s [_New York Times_ archive](https://www.nytimes.com/by/jolie-kerr), the [AACP podcast](https://www.acast.com/askacleanperson) on acast, and of course the [original column on _The Hairpin_](https://www.thehairpin.com/tag/ask-a-clean-person/) (RIP)

- _[My Boyfriend Barfed in My Handbag… and Other Things You Can’t Ask Martha](https://www.amazon.com/Boyfriend-Barfed-Handbag-Things-Martha/dp/0142196932)_, Jolie’s bestselling book

- [How to wash a chest binder and avoid shirt stains after top surgery](https://www.acast.com/askacleanperson/ep126-bindingoptions)

- [Hand-wash your bras already](https://www.racked.com/2015/10/9/9463285/bra-washing-guide) (hahahahaha jk jk we’re using a mesh bag)

- [Hygge](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-year-of-hygge-the-danish-obsession-with-getting-cozy) versus [KonMari](https://konmari.com/)

Also in this episode: Jenn shares some big news, Katel spends all her Swiss Francs on frites, and Sara shops for a therapist—with the help of Katel’s therapist (who we all [met last season](http://www.noyougoshow.com/podcast/s2e5/)).

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