Kathryn's partner, Kyle Pichie, joins her on the Mindful Strength Podcast.  In this episode of Conversations with Kathryn and Kyle, they hone in on jumping - one of Kyle's strong suits, as well as share what's new in movement and life in Williamstown and beyond. After discussing the ins and outs of jumping practice, find out how their first round of BJJ went, and about Kathryn's new online course, with a few tips from Kyle on grip strength - the oft forgotten but ever so important component of upper body strength. They recap their recent retreat in Mexico: teaching and working synergy with Diane Bruni and Ruth Douthwright, training with new movement friends, coming home inspired and how this all led to their new mat flooring! These recordings from the pair's country home, are fun, casual, candid and open, we hope you enjoy them as much as we do.