From the courtroom to the Capitol, this episode of WTMJ’s Point Taken with Steve Scaffidi and Kristin Brey tackles the legal, legislative, and ideological battles shaping Wisconsin and the nation. Special guest Rick Esenberg, president of the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty, joins live in-studio for a wide-ranging conversation you won’t want to miss.

They cover:

⚖️ Due process and undocumented immigration—how far does the Constitution go?

🧑‍⚖️ SCOTUS and reverse discrimination

* Birthright citizenship—is a foundational principle under threat?

🧵 The Wisconsin Supreme Court’s shrinking docket and growing internal tensions

🕊️ Catholic Charities, Roberts’ legacy, and the decisions defining this SCOTUS term

🧭 Is Donald Trump actually a conservative? Rick Esenberg says no—and explains why.

Then in Hour 2:

💰 Can a Republican legislature and a Democratic governor really agree on a budget?

🗳️ Will fair congressional maps come with a price tag?

🚨 BREAKING: Trump’s “Big Beautiful” Budget passes the Senate—with help from Wisconsin

⚔️ Trump vs. Musk: Why Elon’s furious about government spending

🔍 Teaser: Are you paying for your news—or just paying the price for not?