The James Altucher Show

Crazy Finance: Episode 2 - Is College Still Worth It?


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A Note from James:

When I first said that college was a scam, people thought I was joking—or worse. But I wasn’t. If you’re 18 and listening to this, don’t go to college. And if you’re a parent, don’t send your kid without doing the math. College doesn’t guarantee a better life anymore. In fact, it could cost you years of freedom, tens of thousands of dollars, and saddle you with debt you can’t escape. In this episode, Doug Hill and I talk about why the traditional path of “get a degree, get a job, live happily ever after” no longer holds up.


Episode Description:

In this second installment of the Crazy Finance series, James Altucher and Doug Hill challenge another major financial assumption: that college is necessary for success. James argues that skyrocketing tuition, guaranteed student loans, and outdated curricula make college a bad financial decision for most people. Doug, who sent four kids to college, shares his own experience and ultimately agrees—except in a few key professions.

From alternative education paths to trade school opportunities, this episode breaks down the economics and psychology behind one of the most expensive decisions families ever make.


What You’ll Learn:

  • Why student loan debt is structurally predatory and practically inescapable
  • How government-backed loans have inflated tuition for decades
  • Which professions still require college—and which don’t
  • Why trade schools and alternative education may offer better returns
  • How personal development can happen outside the college system


Timestamped Chapters:

  • [00:00] Don’t Go to College (Seriously)
  • [01:00] Why “Personal Finance” Advice Feels Generic
  • [02:00] College as a Scam, Explained
  • [03:00] When College Is Actually Worth It
  • [04:00] Do Doctors Really Need 8 Years of School?
  • [06:00] The Business Degree: What Did It Even Teach?
  • [07:00] Entrepreneurship vs. Education
  • [08:00] The Myth of Higher Earnings
  • [09:00] Remedial Programming After Grad School
  • [10:00] Why Tuition Keeps Rising
  • [11:00] Government Guarantees = No Risk for Colleges
  • [12:00] The Hidden Costs and Opportunity Costs
  • [13:00] Who Actually Benefits From College?
  • [14:00] Trade Schools and Skilled Labor
  • [15:00] Electricians, Mechanics, and the Real ROI
  • [16:00] Useless Courses, Forgotten Skills
  • [17:00] Dropping Out and Getting Ahead
  • [18:00] Sales Skills vs. College Classes
  • [19:00] AI and the Future of Professional Work
  • [20:00] Socialization: Real World vs. Campus
  • [21:00] Google Certificates and Online Education
  • [22:00] James Insults His Alma Mater (Again)
  • [23:00] Who Really Wins in the College System?


Additional Resources:

  • James Altucher on Twitter: @jaltucher
  • James’s article archive on college: Altucher Confidential – Why College is a Scam
  • Coursera Professional Certificates (Google, Meta, etc.): coursera.org
  • Khan Academy (Free Education): khanacademy.org
  • U.S. Department of Education – College Scorecard: collegescorecard.ed.gov
  • Trade School Info & Averages: Trade-Schools.net
  • Federal Reserve Report on Student Loans: federalreserve.gov

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