In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the duo recounts their tumultuous yet amusing start to the day involving Joy's smoke detector mishap and a series of supposed ghostly disturbances. They shift to reflections on the recent passing of Catherine O'Hara, discussing the impact of celebrity deaths on fans. The hosts also tackle heavier topics such as the duty of public figures and therapists to address political issues, and the mental toll of current world events. The episode wraps up with light-hearted chatter on protein-packed foods and ends with actionable advice on managing hormone levels for mental health.

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