In this episode, Nathan sits down with Gregor Maehle to explore the deeper patterns that shape a lifetime of spiritual practice. Rather than focusing on technique or lineage, this conversation travels into the inner terrain—what changes as we mature in our practice, what stays hidden until we're ready to see it, and how we relate to disembodied knowledge and the teachers who carry it.

Gregor speaks candidly about moving through different phases of yoga—physical, philosophical, devotional—and the quiet shifts that signal growth. The conversation turns to the Yoga Sutras, not as a rulebook, but as a living inquiry: What is spiritual maturity? How do we move beyond surface-level understanding into direct experience?

We also touch on:

• Why certain teachings only reveal themselves at the right time

• The role of intuition vs. tradition

• Disembodied teachers and mystical messaging

• The role of avidya (ignorance) in Yoga vs Buddhism

• Is someone "tending the light at the end of the tunnel"?

This is one for listeners who are walking the long path—those in the middle of a cycle, or perhaps sensing the end of one.