Aaaand we're back. Guest friend this week is Ben Cameron from the ABC. Ben works on ABC radio each week with Mick Malthouse and has a theory to put to Dane, that Mick loves ratbags. And we hear more about Mick's 'jam' passion.

We talk about Ralphy's slightly misleading Bucks headline about Dane not wanting Bucks to coach, the longer version is that Dane says Bucks is a better person when he's not coaching. We discuss Tassie and who might coach the team, Dane reckons they will struggle for players, and should focus on players who aren't into the more exciting lifestyle on offer in places like Melbourne and Sydney. Dane makes the comment that Tim Lane has no idea what he's talking about when he says that kids will love to live in Tassie.

We ask Ben about COLA and Ralphy puts his idea to Dane and Ben about a kind of reverse COLA in cheaper to live in markets like Adelaide.

We then get to the list. Dane and Ralphy give their Top 20 players of the past 20- years, and Ralphy gives his Top 20 of the 80s and 90s.

Ben tells us a story about going to Taronga Zoo with Mick Malthouse, and Mick told him about preventing Glen Jakovich from being eaten by a lion.

Dane tells us why Bomber Thompson is an arsehole, and Ben tells us why he reckons Malcolm Blight is one of the nicest blokes, he shares a ripping story about Blighty and Karmichael Hunt.

Ralphy and Dane ask Ben, who watches and calls footy every weekend, to talk us through where he reckons each club is at. And as a Perth boy he explains why he reckons Adam Simpson survived at West Coast at the end of last year.

Ben reckons the ABC's footy call and commentary is far more contemporary than it gets credit for.

We talk about the relationship between the media and footy coaches, and how those who 'play the game' get an easier ride than the others.

And Ralphy continues to bang on about his bet on Freo for the flag.

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