The 4.5 space in marriage is a beautiful place to create, plan, dream, and think, yet this pensive space can keep partners lonely without healthy habits and movement. Today we give our audience tips for finding safety and respect in the depths of the heart and mind with the generous help of the wildly popular husband-and-wife podcast host team, Sharleen Joynt, 4w5, and Andy Levine, 5w4 of the Dear Shandy podcast, as they humorously but soulfully and honestly allow us to plunge the depths of their relationship space. In this extended episode, we also cover how Sharleen was also on "The Bachelor" and performs across the world as an award-winning opera singer, and we talk about what Fours and Fives bring to media spaces as well. Tune in to this unique, comedic, and deeply thoughtful episode here!

Visit the Dear Shandy Podcast here or search "Dear Shandy"

The story of how Andy and Sharleen met on the pod

Visit the Dear Shandy Instagram here (the link in bio links out everything!)

For those who may want to enjoy Sharleen's opera pieces, visit here

Find the Enneagram in Marriage Course here!

 

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