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Bridging Racial Divides Through Sacred, Selfish & Shared Action – DTH Episode 276 with Rev. Dr. Terrlyn L. Curry Avery

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke of the Beloved Community — a vision of reconciliation, redemption, and shared humanity. This week, Wilk is joined by Rev. Dr. Terrlyn L. Curry Avery (“Dr. TLC”), a groundbreaking “pastologist” who unites the worlds of psychology and ministry to lead transformative conversations on race, leadership, and healing.

Drawing from her Sacred Intelligence framework, Dr. TLC unpacks the three keys to building bridges across racial divides:

• Sacred Motive – clarifying the deeper “why” behind our leadership and commitment to dismantling racism.
• Self~ish Mindset – challenging our own conditioning, fear, and bias to make courageous, values-driven choices.
• Shared Movement – stepping beyond our silos to create authentic, cross-racial relationships that inspire change.

With decades of experience as a pastor, licensed psychologist, author, speaker, and current Interim Executive Director of the Healing Racism Institute, Dr. TLC brings powerful insight into how personal transformation fuels collective action. 

Whether you’re a leader, community builder, or simply someone who believes in love over hate, this episode will challenge and inspire you to take the next step toward a more united future.

🔗 Learn more about Dr. TLC and her work: full show notes at www.DerateTheHate.com

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Courageous Connections: Embracing Pluralism Amidst American Populism

In this Derate The Hate bonus episode, host Wilk Wilkinson sits down with fellow Braver Angels Ibrahim Anli and Will Harwood for a powerful discussion on cultural and religious pluralism in the face of American populism. 

They explore what it means to be American in today’s polarized climate and the importance of courageous connections in embracing diversity. Ibrahim, an immigrant to the U.S., and Will, a native-born American, share their personal insights on how America’s evolving identity can remain rooted in foundational civic values while allowing room for pluralism.

Key Topics:

• The concept of American identity and civic creed
• Embracing cultural pluralism and religious freedom
• The challenges and opportunities of immigration in a populist era
• How to build courageous connections across divides
• The role of shared purpose in national unity
• The importance of civic education and staying grounded in the nation’s foundational values

Featured Guests:

• Ibrahim Anli – A passionate advocate for religious pluralism and an immigrant who chose America as his home
• Will Harwood – A native-born American who focuses on civic culture and national identity

Takeaways:

• Pluralism is vital to America’s identity, not as a melting pot but as a kaleidoscope of diverse cultures.
• Courageous connections help bridge divides, whether through religious freedom, cultural exchange, or civic engagement.
• We must continually reconnect with America’s founding ideals to move forward as a unified nation.

Listen Now to hear a thought-provoking conversation on how we can embrace diversity, overcome polarization, and strengthen the fabric of American society in the face of modern challenges.

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DTH Episode 275 with Neil Ghosh — Purpose, Empathy, and Engaged Citizenship

This week, Wilk is joined by Neil Ghosh - author, executive, and social impact strategist, for a powerful conversation on purpose, empathy, and building a meaningful legacy. From the immigrant experience to small acts of micro-altruism, 

Neil shares personal stories and actionable insights that remind us why active participation in democracy and community is more important than ever.

🎧 Key Takeaways:

• Purpose whispers—learn how to hear it.
• Empathy is a civic strength.
• Teach kids to reject hate.
• Small actions create big impact.
• Democracy needs YOU.

 🎙️ Notable quotes:

 “Empathy is not a blue state value, or a red state value, it's an American value.”
 “Disagreement creates innovation.”

🧠 What You'll Learn:

• How purpose reveals itself throughout life
• Why Gen Z wants to talk politics at work—and how leaders can respond
• The power of micro-altruism in the workplace and beyond
• How to teach kids to recognize and reject hate
• Why civic engagement is the foundation of a healthy democracy

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Episode 274: Reigniting Purpose Through Gratitude & Legacy with Dean Taylor

In this episode, Wilk is joined by Dean Taylor for a powerful discussion on how gratitude, personal accountability, and intentional mindset shifts can transform your life. Dean opens up about rediscovering his purpose after years of feeling stuck, inspired by the dream his father never got to fulfill.

 They explore the power of morning routines, the Miracle Morning framework, and how faith and storytelling can help build a life of meaning and impact.

🔑 Key Takeaways:

• Gratitude is a mindset that can change your whole outlook
• Personal accountability is the first step toward growth
• The Miracle Morning creates momentum and mental clarity
• Legacy isn’t just what you leave behind—it's what you live now
• It’s never too late to start dreaming again

💬 Learn more about Dean at DeanTaylorOfficial.com
📲 Connect on Instagram or LinkedIn

🎧 Tune in now to fuel your purpose and build your legacy.

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Can community service heal what politics has broken?

This week, Wilk sits down with Chip Webster, founder of Unity in Service, for a powerful conversation about bridging divides through action, not outrage. From the rise of cancel culture to the erosion of trust in democracy, Chip offers a bold vision for rebuilding unity—one citizen at a time.

💬 Key themes:

• The lost art of responsible citizenship
• How volunteering fosters empathy and shared purpose
• The transformative power of microvalidations
• A call to rethink national service as a unifying force

Whether you're tired of toxic politics or searching for real solutions, this episode will challenge and inspire you to engage with hope—and serve with purpose.

🔗 Learn more & get involved: unityinservice.org

🎧 Listen now and be part of the solution.

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 Restoring Our Belief in Each Other: A New Civic Path for Healing America – Episode 272 with Rich Harwood 

In Episode 272 of Derate The Hate, Wilk welcomes Rich Harwood, founder of The Harwood Institute, to discuss how civic engagement, shared aspirations, and community agency can overcome toxic division in America. Drawing on decades of experience revitalizing communities, Rich explains how we can reject the ugliness of politics and embrace the dignity of building together. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to restore connection, purpose, and hope in their community.

Key Topics:

• Civic engagement in a divided time
• The “Enough Time to Build” campaign
• Reclaiming empathy and dignity
• Building a new civic path
• Creating visible action in local communities
• Restoring agency and shared aspirations

Who is Rich Harwood?
Rich Harwood is President and Founder of The Harwood Institute for Public Innovation and author of The New Civic Path: Restoring Our Belief in One Another and Our Nation. He’s spent over 35 years leading efforts to heal fractured communities and drive social change through public innovation.

Connect with Rich Harwood:
👉 www.theharwoodinstitute.org

🎧 Listen now and share with someone who’s ready to help rebuild what’s been broken.

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Bridging Divides Through Living Room Conversations

In this episode of Derate The Hate, host Wilk Wilkinson welcomes Stewart Fletcher, Director of Communications for Living Room Conversations. They explore the power of civil dialogue in healing political and social divides, the importance of empathy and curiosity, and how structured conversations can help build trust across differences.

Stewart shares his personal story of entering the bridge-building space and explains how Living Room Conversations works to reconnect communities through meaningful, respectful discussion.

Learn more about Stewart and Living Room Conversations:
🌐 livingroomconversations.org
📷 Instagram: @livingroomconvo
📘 Facebook: Living Room Conversations
💼 LinkedIn: Living Room Conversations
📺 YouTube: @LivingRoomConversations

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Subscribe to the Derate The Hate podcast and check out BraverAngels.org to join the movement. 

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Episode 270: From Polarization to Proactive Citizenship – with Dr. Bill Doherty

In the first official Derate The Hate episode produced in collaboration with Braver Angels, host Wilk Wilkinson is joined by Braver Angels co-founder Dr. Bill Doherty to explore how we can move beyond polarization through meaningful citizenship and personal accountability.

Dr. Doherty shares insights on the founding of Braver Angels and introduces the concept of “thick citizenship”—a form of civic engagement that goes beyond voting and paying taxes to include structured conversations, problem-solving, and shared community responsibility.

🔑 In this episode:

• Why Braver Angels was founded in 2016
• How “thin” citizenship fuels polarization
• What “thick” citizenship looks like in practice
• The power of structured conversations and listening to understand
• How personal accountability can heal a divided society

🎧 Tune in to learn how you can be part of the solution.

Subscribe to the Derate The Hate podcast and please visit BraverAngels.org to get involved.

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Political Detox & Shadow Work: Reclaiming Emotional Sovereignty in a Polarized World

In Episode 269 of the Derate The Hate podcast, host Wilk sits down with Chuck Gafvert — a former corporate executive turned political detox coach and Jungian psychology practitioner. They explore the deep psychological roots of political stress, the harmful effects of toxic polarization, and how we can regain inner peace through self-awareness and emotional responsibility.

🎯 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• How Jungian shadow work can reduce political anxiety
• Why political identity shouldn't define your self-worth
• How social media hijacks your emotional system
• Practical ways to break free from political stress

🧘 “Politics causes suffering — but it can also be a gateway for transformation.” — Chuck Gafvert

Chuck also shares immediate steps you can take today to reduce political anxiety, including insights from his free eBook:

🌐 Grab Chuck’s Free eBook:
5 Steps to Start Reducing Political Stress

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 🎙️ From Hate to Humanity: Jeff Schoep's Journey Out of Extremism 

In Episode 268 of the Derate The Hate podcast, host Wilk Wilkinson welcomes back Jeff Schoep—former neo-Nazi leader turned leading deradicalization expert—to discuss his new memoir, "American Nazi: From Hate to Humanity."

In this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Jeff shares how he went from heading the National Socialist Movement to becoming a global voice in counter-extremism. He opens up about the moments that cracked his extremist ideology, the violent past he’s reckoning with, and his mission to help others find a way out of hate.

They also explore the modern implications of identity politics, fear-driven narratives, and the shared humanity we must embrace to prevent radicalization in all its forms.

Don’t miss this compelling episode on transformation, redemption, and the path forward.

📘 "American Nazi: From Hate to Humanity" releases this week—learn more at JeffSchoep.com 

🎧 Listen now on your favorite platform and share with someone who needs to hear this.

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