Has there ever been a person or circumstance in your life that you have had difficulty moving on from? Has there been someone who hurt you? Has something happened that you can't seem to move past no matter how much you want to? No matter how much you have tried? If you feel stuck, then this episode is for you.

A few years ago I was able to speak with Al and Lisa Robertson about this very topic. We've known the Robertsons for a long time and recently my dad, Dr. Joe Beam, was on an episode of the Unashamed Podcast with Phil, Al, and Jase which you can watch here: https://bit.ly/3DNiFbO

In today's episode, I'm speaking with Al and Lisa, who are sharing their story of desperate forgiveness. You will hear about how they have used forgiveness to free them, heal them, and restore their marriage.

Today’s Guests - Al and Lisa Robertson

Alan Robertson is the oldest son of the Duck Commander, Phil Robertson and his wife, Miss Kay and Lisa calls herself “the original Robertson daughter-in-law”.  They appeared on the family’s hit television show, Duck Dynasty on A&E, with the rest of the family where Al was known as the beardless brother. They pastored for 22+ years at the White’s Ferry Road Church in West Monroe, LA before returning to the family business, Duck Commander, to appear on the TV show and speak around the country. They partnered with Miss Kay and opened Miss Kay’s Sweets and Eats in West Monroe in 2016.

Al and Lisa have written and co-written devotional books, books about the Robertson family and also their own story, A New Season. They partnered with Focus on the Family for their latest book, Desperate Forgiveness.

Al also started a production company with his cousin, Zach Dasher that produces shows on BlazeTV.com, including Phil’s show, In the Woods With Phil. He is also the host of Phil’s Podcast, Unashamed with Phil Robertson, also starring his brother Jase,

Alan and Lisa have been married for 35 years, have two married daughters, four granddaughters and two grandsons.  Their passion is spending time with their family, traveling together, writing books, doing marriage retreats, speaking for pro-life causes and working hard to help strengthen and save marriages by sharing what God has done in their own marriage through brokenness, renewal, hope and forgiveness.

Book: Desperate Forgiveness


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Kimberly Beam Holmes has applied her master's degree in psychology for over ten years, acting as the CEO of Marriage Helper & CEO and Creator of PIES Univ

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