In today's episode, I'm interviewing Mal Glowenke, host of the Made It Out podcast, who's been a pioneer in the lesbian podcast scene. We dive into her recent breakup—not only with her romantic partner but also her podcast co-host—and how that experience has shaped her healing journey. We talk about the unique challenges of navigating a breakup while untangling both a business and a mutual friend group, especially within the close-knit world of queer women. Mal shares the tools and practices that have helped her heal, the importance of building "muscle memory" around self-care and coping, and why she believes every breakup is an opportunity to get closer to who you truly are. We discuss the concept of "expanders," finding gratitude in the mess, and allowing yourself to borrow hope when your own feels low. There’s so much wisdom in this conversation, whether you’re moving through a breakup, navigating big life changes, or just looking to build your inner toolkit.

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In today's expert episode, I'm interviewing Hiroko Yoda, a Japanese cultural historian, journalist, and author of the new book "8 Million Ways to Happiness: Wisdom for Inspiration and Healing from the Heart of Japan." We dive into how anyone can use the principles of Japanese spirituality to help heal from grief and heartbreak, regardless of their background. Hiroko shares her own journey of reconnecting with Japanese spiritual traditions after her mother's passing, and we explore ideas like the fluidity of emotions, the absence of hierarchy in feelings, and making healing less goal-oriented. We also talk about the deep wisdom nature can offer us, letting go of shame and guilt around grief, and why it's okay to stay in the gray areas of healing. This conversation was so beautiful and full of powerful insights for everyone, no matter where they're at in their healing journey.

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In today’s expert episode, I’m joined by Dr. Alina Kastner, a Vienna-based psychotherapist and author of Break Up with Narcissism: How to Break Free and Stay Free. We dive into what really happens after a breakup with a narcissist—beyond just identifying the red flags. Dr. Alina shares her perspective on the often-missing conversation about the true healing journey: rebuilding self-esteem, facing the isolation that comes from a toxic relationship, letting go of shame, and how to reconnect with old friends after being cut off. We talk about the complex aftermath, from understanding the emotional void to dealing with trauma triggers long after the relationship ends. Dr. Alina also shares practical advice and introduces her Toxic Breakup Journal, a daily tool for navigating those challenging first weeks of recovery. If you’re struggling with the “what now?” after leaving a narcissist, this episode is full of hope, validation, and actionable tips for reclaiming your life.

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In today’s expert episode, I’m interviewing Faith Freed, a licensed psychotherapist, spiritual guide, and author of the new book DIY Spirituality: Chart Your Own Sacred Path. We dive into the intersection of spirituality and relationships—especially after heartbreak—and discuss how connecting with your own sense of spirituality can be a key part of healing. We get into what spirituality really means (it’s probably more accessible and personal than you think!), why it’s so important to develop a strong relationship with yourself and something greater than you, and how doing so can actually prevent unhealthy relationship patterns like putting your partner on a pedestal. Faith breaks down her “divine disco ball” framework for spiritual self-care, shares practical, approachable ways to connect with your spirit, and reassures us that there’s no one right way to get spiritual. Whether you’re religious, spiritual-but-not-religious, or just curious about how spirituality can support your healing, this is a great place to start.

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In today's expert episode, I'm joined by one of my all-time favorite guests (and yours!), Guy Winch, psychologist, TED speaker, and author of the brand new book Mind Over Grind. We dive deep into the topic of how workplace stress and burnout can erode our relationships, sometimes leading to breakups and heartache. We talk about the unconscious ways that work stress spills over into our home lives, why productivity can become a numbing tool after heartbreak, and how rumination keeps us stuck during tough transitions. Guy Winch shares research-backed insights on why burnout can make us feel numb—even toward the people we love most—and gives practical tips for both partners: whether you're the one obsessing about work, or on the receiving end feeling like you've come second to your partner's job. We also discuss key conversations to have early on when dating again, especially if you've got a history of choosing partners who are married to their work. If you've ever wondered how to set healthy work boundaries, or want to understand the hidden ways stress can impact your love life, this episode is packed with validation, practical advice, and hope.

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In today's expert episode, I'm joined by journalist and author Amanda McCracken to dive deep into the topics of longing and limerence—those intense, ruminating crushes or obsessions that can stick with us for years, even decades. Amanda shares her very personal journey with limerence, what it was like to struggle with it long before the term became widely known, and how it intersected with her romantic life and late-in-life virginity. We talk about the addictive pull of longing, why emotionally unavailable people can feel so magnetic, and how societal influences like rom-coms and social media can amp up these feelings. Amanda also shares practical advice and her road to recovery, including how she eventually shifted out of these patterns to find real intimacy with her now-husband. If you're going through a breakup, struggling to let go, or finding yourself stuck in obsessive thoughts about an ex, this conversation will hit home and give you hope that healing—and even real love—are possible.

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In today's solo episode, I'm sitting down and sharing off the cuff about something unexpected that came up for me in therapy this week—old pain from a toxic relationship I was in over a decade ago. Even though I haven't gone through a breakup in years, this experience reminded me how healing from heartbreak, especially from trauma and narcissistic abuse, happens in layers and isn't always linear. I discuss how triggers from my past appeared in my current marriage, what it's like to feel frustrated that old wounds resurface even after doing so much "work," and how I'm learning to have more compassion for my younger self. This episode isn't about having all the answers, but rather about being honest with the messy parts of the healing journey, processing in real time, and offering support to anyone who feels shame for still being affected by a breakup, no matter how long ago it happened.

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In today's expert episode, I'm interviewing returning guest Thais Gibson—best-selling author, researcher, and founder of the Personal Development School—about her powerful new concept: the six stages of every relationship. We unpack each stage, from dating and the honeymoon phase, through the power struggle, all the way to commitment and the everlasting stage. We talk through the specific lessons and pitfalls that come with each phase, why so many breakups happen in the power struggle, and how even long-term couples can be stuck without ever moving forward. We also discuss practical tools for vetting in the dating stage, communicating your needs, and building safer, more fulfilling partnerships. Whether you’re reflecting on a past breakup or looking to date differently in the future, this is an episode full of actionable insight and hope.

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In today’s expert episode, I’m joined by Kati Morton—licensed marriage and family therapist, bestselling author, and one of the most trusted mental health voices online. We dive into her newest book, "Why Do I Keep Doing This?" and explore how our desire for control impacts everything from relationships to mental health. In our conversation, we talk about the many ways control can show up—beyond the classic “type A” stereotype—including people pleasing, passive aggression, and perfectionism. Kati Morton shares her own journey with control, and we discuss why self-knowledge alone isn’t enough to change patterns and break free from cycles we know aren’t serving us. We also get into the unique struggle of wanting closure after a breakup, and how we can start to process experiences, sit with discomfort, and move toward more helpful behavior without shaming ourselves into change. Whether you’re currently going through heartbreak or simply looking to understand yourself better, this episode will help you release the illusion of control and find compassion in your healing process.

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