Alison Mosshart (The Kills, The Dead Weather) has been painting with remote control cars; Devendra Banhart's been obsessively pondering Christian Slater's '89 skater flick Gleaming The Cube. To celebrate Alison's new art book about cars — Car Ma — and Devendra's LP Ma, the two got together over salted egg brainless shrimp heads to discuss the above as well as skateboarding as a gateway drug to dope music, the multi-hyphenate magic of Captain Beefheart, how Guns N' Roses' November Rain video shaped Devendra's idea of Americans, and so much more.

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Today’s show was recorded by Michael Harris at Electro-Vox Studios in Los Angeles, and Mark Yoshizumi at Hook and Fade Studios in Brooklyn. It was co-produced by Mark Yoshizumi.

The Talkhouse Podcast’s theme song was composed and performed by The Range.